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@scots - There should be some LESSONS to be learned with this NUKE issues . . . specially with those of Iran and Pyongyang ! Though this time . . . the US should have a very SMALL time-frame when it comes to invading countries . . . there should be no more GROUND TROOP-deployment . . . should just be dropped from above . . . I'm smelling a Hiroshima part 2 this time

Yeah . . . I know that JOKE dude . . . just wanna make some commercial-break-discussion here
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Posted: 2006-10-18 01:31:09
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@jojo

Few wars can be won by air power alone. If the objective was simply to destroy North Korea's nuclear facilities then air power alone could conceivably be used. However, since North Korea already has a nuclear bomb (we think), air power alone might not be enough. In that respect a ground attack would probably be necessary.

The only other option is a nuclear strike, but that would very much be a last resort measure.
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Posted: 2006-10-18 02:10:16
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@scots - Yeah . . . I believe that dude ! However, looking back at the flaws where the US engaged itself on ground-deployment-offensive attacks . . . Vitenam and Iraq . . . they are taking sooooooooo long to accomplish their missions If it was a basket ball game, the US invasion on Iraq is NOW on it's 10th quintiple-overtime instead of the usual 4 quarters . . . They only achieved a short-time-offensive-success when they dropped that NUKE in Hiroshima !

Being abreast with the news on Pyongyang's fate via CNN and BBC . . . only the US, Australia and Japan are very clearly seen with STRONG opposition with what the N. Korea did with matching pro- SANCTIONS-votes (nuke-test). As what I have initially perceived . . . China and Russia will just PLAY the usual-trick of . . . . as-if-they-truly-care-syndrome . . . but in the end, they will back Pyongyang's stand . . . include CUBA and VENEZUELA on the list !
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Posted: 2006-10-18 02:21:32
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i think i remember reading somewhere that the test facility is so far underground as to be beyond the reach of conventional weapons. if the west was intent on destroying that facility the only means would either be occupation or nuclear assault.
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Posted: 2006-10-18 02:30:46
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@jojo

In the Vietnam War America was constrained by domestic and international political considerations. In the Iraq War the actual invasion of Iraq itself was very successful, it's the 'peace' afterwards, which has proven difficult.

I don't think there would necessarily be the same situation in North Korea. What would probably happen in the aftermath of such a war is that the two Koreas would be united.
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Posted: 2006-10-18 02:44:46
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@scots - Well, actually the US' main objective in the Iraq-offensive is just to get Saddam's head ! Now, they've got it . . they now can't control his behaviour in the court-proceedings Yup, I've watched back then when the S. Korea president visited the North's territory years back . . . that was TRULY a historic moment in the Korean Peninsula ! Everyone then HOPED that a reunification will follow suit . . . but went FORLORN! South Korea is doing a test-drill at the moment . . . a SIREN will sound at around lunch-time . . . preparing themselves in case of a North's nuke attack . . .
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Posted: 2006-10-18 02:57:52
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Well it looks like they are preparing for another test. Its a good thing it will take at least 5 years before they are able to put one of these nukes on a missle.

For the time being all they can do is load one on a plane and drop it from the sky. Thank god for surveillance and spy planes! It would hopefully be shot down before it reached its target.
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Posted: 2006-10-18 09:28:22
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i wouldnt want to shoot at a plane with nukes on it
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Posted: 2006-10-18 11:27:23
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@Trogdor

If was to save 100,000 lives you would
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Posted: 2006-10-18 11:35:55
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From the BBC

Quote: Kim Jong Il wrote:

The United States must not miscalculate us.

No illusion can be more ridiculous or groundless than for the Bush group to think it can bring us to our knees with sanctions and pressures after forgetting the lesson from the shameful defeats recorded by its previous administrations in the history of relations with the DPRK and remaining stuck on its already bankrupt hostile policy towards the DPRK. As our Republic had not been shaken by any wind or wave even without nuclear weapons in the past, it is nonsensical for it to yield to anyone else's pressures or threats today when it has become a dignified nuclear power.

We want peace but do not fear war, and we desire dialogue but are always ready for confrontation, as well.

We will fulfil our duty to denuclearize the Korean peninsula as we have already declared, but if anyone tries to infringe on our sovereignty and our right to existence, even a bit, under the signboard of the UN Security Council resolution, we will unsparingly launch a merciless strike.

We will watch out for any move by the United States, and will take appropriate measures accordingly.


The fighting talk has started...
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Posted: 2006-10-18 12:26:59
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