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Quote:But then you don't see s40 (yet anyway) being used for as demanding multimedia as SE non-smartphones.
There are some exception. 6233/88 has vga recording which should be quite taxing on the phone. On the whole I agree with you that most s40 phones have less multimedia than say K800.
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Posted: 2007-01-28 04:04:13
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Overall I think it comes down to preference. I prefer the overall ergonomics of SE phones, they have the equipment level I require, so I stick with them for non-smartphone use.
I have an XDA II mini for smartphone use, which I find much more flexible and useful than either s60 or uiq devices.
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Posted: 2007-01-28 13:11:31
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If one cares to remember, I have pointed out years ago on this same forum (and on C++ programming related) symbian/s60 is a winner. I remember like yesterday, when together with a few other c++ enthusiasts we 'dissected' parts of the original/very first s60 OS (7650) Now non of us where professional programmers, but the elegant (modular way) of symbian programming in general and s60 interface in particular, struck me ! I immediately saw the by then 'hidden' advantage nokia will have and decided to buy shares. I have sold them for a nice profit a while back, but the s60 advantage remained. Please do a search under mario2002 (my old name) and see for yourself (look and 2004 postings) While motorola, se, apple takes shots in the dark and sometimes hit something (razor line, cybershot/music etc) nokia adapt in months to circumstances because of a very flexible underlying OS ! Yes most people don't know what s60 is or does but trust me Nokia does!
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Posted: 2007-01-28 14:19:06
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On 2007-01-28 14:19:06, mario2004 wrote:
If one cares to remember, I have pointed out years ago on this same forum (and on C++ programming related) symbian/s60 is a winner. I remember like yesterday, when together with a few other c++ enthusiasts we 'dissected' parts of the original/very first s60 OS (7650) Now non of us where professional programmers, but the elegant (modular way) of symbian programming in general and s60 interface in particular, struck me ! I immediately saw the by then 'hidden' advantage nokia will have and decided to buy shares. I have sold them for a nice profit a while back, but the s60 advantage remained. Please do a search under mario2002 (my old name) and see for yourself (look and 2004 postings) While motorola, se, apple takes shots in the dark and sometimes hit something (razor line, cybershot/music etc) nokia adapt in months to circumstances because of a very flexible underlying OS ! Yes most people don't know what s60 is or does but trust me Nokia does!
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Yes you are a god mario. Many times you have demonstrated your complete lack of bias, therefore I believe and worship everything you say.
Despite the fact you haven't investigated UIQ to the same degree as s60, and despite as a non-professional you feel entitled to make assessment of s60, despite the fact it was 3 years ago and there is now a NEW version of UIQ, despite the fact that UIQ ALSO uses Symbian (surely the underlying os is the heart of the operating system not the ui), despite all these reasons I'm going to just believe it because you say it. I'll read your post and take it as GOD's Commandments written on stone, to never look at any phopne every again unless it says NOKIA on it.
There you happy?
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Posted: 2007-01-29 06:50:00
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Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit - although it can be the most effective
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Posted: 2007-01-29 09:25:06
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Yes you are a god mario. Many times you have demonstrated your complete lack of bias, therefore I believe and worship everything you say.
Sorry for upsetting you buddy. That wasn't my intention! I don't want anyone to 'believe' or accept it as given what I say. I just want you to look around and see things from different angles. You are right - I am not always as unbiased as I should be (that has got a lot to do with some posters on this forum too - no excuse thou). And yes you are right again - I haven't spend any time with P990i's Symbian OS incarnation. But I have heard a lot in programing circles (I defend symbian here and there you know). You think the users have problems with the P990i's system stability? Huh - the software developers are hit even worse! And keep in mind - they can't complain in public as the users do. (Money invested in developing a program will be lost if the developer tells the world - the system might crash if running it together with this or that ! ! !) Is a nightmare - SE use to trumpet almost a year back 'the P990i is delayed to give more time to software developers to come up with the goodies' What a blaf. I remember I was furious at SE, how can they fool potential customers like that? The delelopers did not even receive a properly working emulator to test the programs they were supposed to develop. (I am still waiting for a reply to my email send early last year
) Don't understand me wrong buddy. I like the P990i. Yes I do, after all it uses Symbian too. But it could have been such a better device. Let's hope that this time next year, I will have better things to say about SE and 'flagship' phones
I am asking once again the question - SE have increased their market share and profits, but at whose expence? Greetings from South Africa. Mario
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Posted: 2007-01-29 09:51:18
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hey mario, thanks for the reply. Sorry about being a bit over the top, but I felt you were telling us to look at your post as "proof", as if you were to say it was so it must be! Sorry to have doubted you buddy, thanks for elucidating. I was having a bad morning (plus some other unrelated threads had me a bit riled)!
I guess I have to begrudgingly agree with you about P990 and support for development. It is one area SE fall down. I wonder how (or if) UIQ development will change much when SE are fully in control?
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Posted: 2007-01-29 10:06:09
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Quote:It is one area SE fall down. I wonder how (or if) UIQ development will change much when SE are fully in control?
I remember reading somewhere that developing a smartphone platform is much more difficult and expensive than was once anticipated. So I think it will be a few more generations before UIQ3 can be at same level of stability/performance of s60.
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Posted: 2007-01-29 12:49:08
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On 2007-01-29 09:25:06, goldenface wrote:
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit - although it can be the most effective
I would say the highest form of wit.
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Posted: 2007-01-29 15:16:37
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@mib Yes you are right, s60 it is more mature of the 2, but don't fool yourself, UIQ is the more powerfull one. The 2 can't really be compared. Yes both have symbian 'underneath' but that's it. S60 is standing out by its relative simplicity and elegant development (and hopefully usage) whereas Uiq is more like the other way around. (definitly nice usage at the expence of more difficult implementation. Remember nokia & co spend huge amounts to get s60 where it is. Se did a pretty good job with the 'old' symbian and I am sure they will sort out the 'new' one too (eventually) What I ain't so sure of is the incentive se has to pour money in it :( after all they discovered a nice milk cow. And is not symbian powered.
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Posted: 2007-01-29 16:46:23
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