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On 2010-01-27 18:23:09, domipost wrote:
Yeah, good idea! Make it cheaper than the manufacturing price! That would mean loads of profits!
"They should
practically give the vivaz away (make it really cheap) to restore their credibility."
Was debating with myself whether or not to to write it that way instead of just writing "make it cheaper", but then I thought people will understand (even wrote make it cheap behind it)... Well guess not, on the internet you gotta make it simple...
Sorry if I confused you, I meant make it cheap like 5800 or something, maybe even cut the price so they make no profit on it in the beginning.
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Posted: 2010-01-27 23:56:42
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It's quite disappointing to know that Vivaz is only capable of recording 720p @ 24 fps. I hope the commercial version is able to record at 30 fps.
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Posted: 2010-01-28 03:07:22
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I am loving the new photos and video. The Vivaz is really a nice addition. I just hope pricing is reasonable...come on
!! Not much delays, good pricing...aggressive marketing!
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Posted: 2010-01-28 05:26:31
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The vivaz is manufactured at a cost of around 200 euros hence a retail price of 300-350 euros is the minimum they'll be looking at. If they manage to price it around that then vivaz has the potential to be a winner.
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Posted: 2010-01-28 06:16:32
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I am actualy getting more and more excited about the Vivaz when i read about it being cheaper than Satio
as it is it looks like Satio maybe free on my contract but i think i want the all Black Vivaz
its the ONE SE smartphone im looking forward to.
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Posted: 2010-01-28 08:24:30
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On 2010-01-27 23:56:42, motvikt wrote:
On 2010-01-27 18:23:09, domipost wrote:
Yeah, good idea! Make it cheaper than the manufacturing price! That would mean loads of profits!
"They should
practically give the vivaz away (make it really cheap) to restore their credibility."
Was debating with myself whether or not to to write it that way instead of just writing "make it cheaper", but then I thought people will understand (even wrote make it cheap behind it)... Well guess not, on the internet you gotta make it simple...
Sorry if I confused you, I meant make it cheap like 5800 or something, maybe even cut the price so they make no profit on it in the beginning.
If they dont make any money on this, whats the point? O_O
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Posted: 2010-01-28 08:27:17
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On 2010-01-28 03:07:22, rss_ndrsn wrote:
It's quite disappointing to know that Vivaz is only capable of recording 720p @ 24 fps. I hope the commercial version is able to record at 30 fps.
looked ok on youtube though. we'll see what happens
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Posted: 2010-01-28 10:12:53
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On 2010-01-27 23:56:42, motvikt wrote:
On 2010-01-27 18:23:09, domipost wrote:
Yeah, good idea! Make it cheaper than the manufacturing price! That would mean loads of profits!
"They should
practically give the vivaz away (make it really cheap) to restore their credibility."
Was debating with myself whether or not to to write it that way instead of just writing "make it cheaper", but then I thought people will understand (even wrote make it cheap behind it)... Well guess not, on the internet you gotta make it simple...
Sorry if I confused you, I meant make it cheap like 5800 or something, maybe even cut the price so they make no profit on it in the beginning.
I was actually referring to the fact that the price is pretty good with it's €400 at start of sales. It's one of the most powerfull phones and beats the crap out of X6 in every way, and that one is €500 now. If they make it much cheaper, they won't make any profit anymore, which is not really the way to go.
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Posted: 2010-01-28 10:17:53
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If they dont make any money on this, whats the point? O_O
To sell some phones
create a buzz, restore the company name, etc etc. Its like GM (the motor company) selling volt with a loss in the beginning to restore credibility. Basic economy, get people to like the brand again.
Well whatever. All Im saying is that SE probably wont sell it very cheap anyway and people will buy other phones instead. A phone like this should be sold for 350 Euro, like the 5800. 5800 became popular because of its price (in my opinion it was a really shitty phone)
This phone needs to be a big success.
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2010-01-28 11:55 ]
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Posted: 2010-01-28 12:51:27
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no zenon flash................24fps
why don't SE just make a perfect device that everyone will want and flood the market instead of going to market with many devices that have loads of shortcommings that nobody wants because there is basic stuff missing, the satio was almost there except for the omission of a few basic things that spoil it
they seem to think that I will buy a satio if I want to take pics then a c905 if I want music etc etc so i will have like 3 SE devices in my pocket to use depending on what I'm doing, this is quite simply flawed, I want one device that satifies all, isn't that what apple tried to do. What they need are 3 flagship devices based on the 3 operating systems, that have equal capabilities and no shortcomings, then people get to choose the OS they want rather than a mishmash of capabilities, it would also reduce development costs only having to support 3 models, and if they are good enough they will capture the market share they need.
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Posted: 2010-01-28 14:37:59
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