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sealover94 Posts: > 500


On 2009-11-15 19:31:13, garxman wrote:
Thanks @my ninja
In the video at 02.30 he says that it runs with 1.6 but can be updated to 2.0


yes indeed lets hope it can and will be updated
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Posted: 2009-11-15 20:14:21
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anders260 Posts: 197

Interesting to see if there will be any updates tommorrow

http://developer.sonyericsson[....]dium=twitter&utm_campaign=news
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Posted: 2009-11-15 21:23:11
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garxman Posts: 10

Thank you anders260 for the link

"1GB internal storage..." wow
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Posted: 2009-11-15 22:24:47
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my ninja Posts: > 500

in all likelihood it will be shared ram/rom, the protos/dev units we've seen show 256/284mb of ram used.
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Posted: 2009-11-15 22:38:23
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mreman4k Posts: 101

I need this X10 in my life.
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Posted: 2009-11-16 00:22:05
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carkitter Posts: > 500


On 2009-11-15 18:06:02, my ninja wrote:

...SE X10
Nokia N900
HTC HD2/Dragon
Motorola Droid

thats the list, thats it 4 phones out of thousands a year, it will be dominant...

Really? Based on what? Your view of a high spec phone?

Nokia N900 is not an Android phone. If it sells in large numbers (for a smartphone, which is not many compared to feature phones or low end phones) it'll be because it has 'NOKIA' written on it, not because of the Maemo platform. Nokia have been unsuccessful in getting S60 to take off as a viable app platform (Apple proved that) I doubt Maemo will be any different. Nokia smartphone customers seldom want smartphone features, strangely. Surveys have shown that most S60 owners don't know their phone has an OS in it. N900 won't be much different.

HTC are not a top 5 handset manufacturer. Their offerings has gained traction lately for the simple reason that there were no competing Android phones from the top 5 handset manufacturers. Now that Motorola, and LG are in the game, watch the HTC models get forgotten about.

The Droid should do well but don't forget about the Cliq/DEXT. They are cheaper and should sell well. Just because a phone isn't the ultimate high-end model it shouldn't be written off.

The market challenge now is to provide the best user experience and update it regularly with new features ala iPhone firmware updates. clearly have this sussed because they call their smartphones Xperia, their UI is called User Xperience and they have already indicated updates to Android 2.0 and supported features. Have we had this level of confirmation of future upgrades from Moto, HTC and LG?

are making all the right noises and the videos show an awesome device with a class-leading, future proofed processor. What is there to criticise really? All we need now is a product launch. Roll on February.
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Posted: 2009-11-16 04:11:30
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mreman4k Posts: 101


On 2009-11-16 04:11:30, carkitter wrote:

On 2009-11-15 18:06:02, my ninja wrote:

...SE X10
Nokia N900
HTC HD2/Dragon
Motorola Droid

thats the list, thats it 4 phones out of thousands a year, it will be dominant...

Really? Based on what? Your view of a high spec phone?

Nokia N900 is not an Android phone. If it sells in large numbers (for a smartphone, which is not many compared to feature phones or low end phones) it'll be because it has 'NOKIA' written on it, not because of the Maemo platform. Nokia have been unsuccessful in getting S60 to take off as a viable app platform (Apple proved that) I doubt Maemo will be any different. Nokia smartphone customers seldom want smartphone features, strangely. Surveys have shown that most S60 owners don't know their phone has an OS in it. N900 won't be much different.

HTC are not a top 5 handset manufacturer. Their offerings has gained traction lately for the simple reason that there were no competing Android phones from the top 5 handset manufacturers. Now that Motorola, and LG are in the game, watch the HTC models get forgotten about.

The Droid should do well but don't forget about the Cliq/DEXT. They are cheaper and should sell well. Just because a phone isn't the ultimate high-end model it shouldn't be written off.

The market challenge now is to provide the best user experience and update it regularly with new features ala iPhone firmware updates. clearly have this sussed because they call their smartphones Xperia, their UI is called User Xperience and they have already indicated updates to Android 2.0 and supported features. Have we had this level of confirmation of future upgrades from Moto, HTC and LG?

are making all the right noises and the videos show an awesome device with a class-leading, future proofed processor. What is there to criticise really? All we need now is a product launch. Roll on February.



1) I would consider HTC a top 5 smartphone manufacturer. They are doing wonderful things with their customizations to Windows Mobile AND Android. They will NOT be forgotten about. Their Sense UI is a differentiator amongst other Android handsets.

2) HTC has also committed to an Android 2.0 update for their HTC Hero phones which currently run Android 1.6. Motorola also already has Android 2.0 and will continue to update the Droid because Verizon is pushing this phone as an iPhone competitor. Sony Ericsson has something to prove here because they have a questionable history when it comes to upgrading capable platforms with the next iteration of an OS (read X1 + WM6.5).
[ This Message was edited by: mreman4k on 2009-11-16 04:10 ]

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Posted: 2009-11-16 05:10:01
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carkitter Posts: > 500


On 2009-11-16 05:10:01, mreman4k wrote:
1) I would consider HTC a top 5 smartphone manufacturer. They are doing wonderful things with their customizations to Windows Mobile AND Android. They will NOT be forgotten about. Their Sense UI is a differentiator amongst other Android handsets.

2) HTC has also committed to an Android 2.0 update for their HTC Hero phones which currently run Android 1.6. Motorola also already has Android 2.0 and will continue to update the Droid because Verizon is pushing this phone as an iPhone competitor. Sony Ericsson has something to prove here because they have a questionable history when it comes to upgrading capable platforms with the next iteration of an OS (read X1 + WM6.5).

HTC are a top 5 smartphone manufacturer but smartphones are only a small part of the overall market. I believe , LG, Samsung and Motorola will be successful in shifting a significant portion of their mid and high end feature phone market into smartphones and that will be at HTC's expense. Up until mid 2008 I was a happy mid to high end feature phone owner but now I'm a smartphone owner. Many people like me are wanting to access the extra functionality of apps, browse and read email/social media updates on their phone but we're price conscious and are waiting for the right device. Moto Cliq is a very good start.

Sense UI is an Android fragmenter not a differentiator. Moto and can get away with this sort of thing because the market is used to feature phones with different (proprietary) UI's but it's not good for the Android platform as a whole to have the OS fragmented in this way - it puts off developers who are needed to create the apps which give a platform the critical mass to become successful.

As far as I know, Palm are the only ones who have actually provided a full (iPhone style) OS update with WebOS 1.3.1
For a minute there I thought you called WM a capable platform.

A good blog about platforms and what makes them successful here.
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Posted: 2009-11-16 05:53:38
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my ninja Posts: > 500

@cark you took my statement way out of context. it was an illustration as to which phones announced/shipping now that are direct competitors to the X10, and these phones represent the best that the telecomm industry is willing to build and sell, and that there are only a handful of them. so within that, the satisfaction of the state of the X10 shouldnt be so carelessly forgotten/ignored/remissed.
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Posted: 2009-11-16 07:08:19
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prototype_bo Posts: 150


On 2009-11-15 14:28:37, sealover94 wrote:

And it is more constructive to discuss the disadvantages rather than advantages(which are obvious and won't change) of sth and when the final product come in stores THINK AND BUY.



Buddy,

I agree that we should highlight any disadvantages, but there's really no need to be feisty.
your comments could be true, but we should reserve the latest judgment until we try the handset "in person" when it gets launched on Feb 2010.


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Posted: 2009-11-16 07:08:33
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