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mriley Posts: > 500

do you know what ISO is and how to use it?
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Posted: 2010-07-31 17:26:05
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APR Posts: > 500


On 2010-07-31 17:26:05, mriley wrote:
do you know what ISO is and how to use it?


Not really, The ISO reading is from ExifReader, but i mean why my photo looks suck in all auto mode?
[ This Message was edited by: APR on 2010-07-31 16:34 ]

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Posted: 2010-07-31 17:33:30
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mriley Posts: > 500

when do they suck? in low light or all light conditions?
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Posted: 2010-07-31 17:41:26
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APR Posts: > 500

Low light condition, like the first pic, it seems like affect by the brightness of the xenon, especially in extremely low light condition
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Posted: 2010-07-31 17:48:24
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mriley Posts: > 500

Ok, some things to try:

Rest the phone on a stable surface first, make it steady.

Low light with flash

1. Normal scene, enable flash. Quite fast shutter speed, ISO is 400 (bad quality) Photo will be dark and grainy
2. Twilight portrait scene, enable flash, 0.5 shutter speed, ISO is 200 (much better quality) Brighter less grain
3. Is the 2 photo too bright or too dark?
Too dark: Decrease shutter speed to 1 second. Too bright: Increase shutter speed.

Try that, post photos

Things to change in low light with flash: Shutter speed, ISO and flash strength (controlled by EV position: EV-2 = weak flash, EV +2 = strong flash)

Look at this too > c901 xenon noise test

Probably worth remembering again that as you change ISO manually, they are approximate values in EXIF so the first pic could be below ISO 100.
[ This Message was edited by: mriley on 2010-07-31 17:07 ]

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Posted: 2010-07-31 17:56:11
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titus1 Posts: > 500

Wonder where's Raider?
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Posted: 2010-07-31 18:13:15
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APR Posts: > 500

Almost no difference
1 is auto and another 1 is Twilight portrait


Twilight portrait with 1s

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Posted: 2010-07-31 18:21:45
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mriley Posts: > 500

Dont give up APR You're asking a tiny sensor with small xenon flash to light up an outdoor area of complete darkness.
You can still get good results, experiment with it, ill try tonight.

Could you upload photos with tinypic then post the URL here?

It's a shame we can't have 2 second shutter speed or many other features that didnt work out, but raiderski has done a great job of what can be done
[ This Message was edited by: mriley on 2010-07-31 18:54 ]

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Posted: 2010-07-31 19:45:28
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APR Posts: > 500


On 2010-07-31 19:45:28, mriley wrote:
Dont give up APR You're asking a tiny sensor with small xenon flash to light up an outdoor area of complete darkness.
You can still get good results, experiment with it, ill try tonight.

Could you upload photos with tinypic then post the URL here?

It's a shame we can't have 2 second shutter speed or many other features that didnt work out, but raiderski has done a great job of what can be done
[ This Message was edited by: mriley on 2010-07-31 18:54 ]

I think you are right, the C901 lens is to small when compare with K800i, i think this is the main reason, i will upload some pic tonight
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Posted: 2010-08-01 09:47:48
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mriley Posts: > 500

the lens has nothing to do with quality of night photography, that is limited by the sensor, it's sensitivity to light and the ISO and shutter speed options avaliable, K800 has 2 seconds shutter speed, double the exposure of C901

xenon in phones is meant for indoor pics, try some of them you will get better results

Plummy camera driver
[ This Message was edited by: mriley on 2010-08-01 19:39 ]

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Posted: 2010-08-01 17:33:08
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