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motvikt Posts: > 500

Yea I also think its a phone with s4, which is smart. S(E) should release phones when new platforms are available instead of playing catch up later. Hopefully Mint will have STE 9600, putting in the absolute top of mobile phones.
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Posted: 2012-02-06 20:33:33
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argiriano Posts: 305


On 2012-02-06 20:33:33, motvikt wrote:
Yea I also think its a phone with s4, which is smart. S(E) should release phones when new platforms are available instead of playing catch up later. Hopefully Mint will have STE 9600, putting in the absolute top of mobile phones.

Well, Imagination had delayed PowerVR 6 significantly so it will be much longer 'till we see some ST-E 9600 powered devices. Reports say H1 2013.
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Posted: 2012-02-06 21:39:03
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DACHA Posts: > 500


On 2012-02-06 21:39:03, argiriano wrote:

On 2012-02-06 20:33:33, motvikt wrote:
Yea I also think its a phone with s4, which is smart. S(E) should release phones when new platforms are available instead of playing catch up later. Hopefully Mint will have STE 9600, putting in the absolute top of mobile phones.

Well, Imagination had delayed PowerVR 6 significantly so it will be much longer 'till we see some ST-E 9600 powered devices. Reports say H1 2013.


You are right. For H2 2012 there will be the Tegra 3 40nm, Samsung Samsung Exynos 4212/5250 32nm, TI OMAP 5 28nm
and Qualcomm Krait 28nm.

The ST-Ericsson NovaThor LP9600 (Nova A9600) is supposed to be available in Q1 2013 28nm.

http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]s4-msm8960-krait-architecture.

I think Sony might have one phone coming in Q3 with S4 processor.

Based on all the facts I have seen there will not be a significant change in hardware from 2012 to 2013 as we have seen from 2011 to 2012.

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Posted: 2012-02-06 21:57:01
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motvikt Posts: > 500


On 2012-02-06 21:57:01, DACHA wrote:

On 2012-02-06 21:39:03, argiriano wrote:

On 2012-02-06 20:33:33, motvikt wrote:
Yea I also think its a phone with s4, which is smart. S(E) should release phones when new platforms are available instead of playing catch up later. Hopefully Mint will have STE 9600, putting in the absolute top of mobile phones.

Well, Imagination had delayed PowerVR 6 significantly so it will be much longer 'till we see some ST-E 9600 powered devices. Reports say H1 2013.


You are right. For H2 2012 there will be the Tegra 3 40nm, Samsung Samsung Exynos 4212/5250 32nm, TI OMAP 5 28nm
and Qualcomm Krait 28nm.

The ST-Ericsson NovaThor LP9600 (Nova A9600) is supposed to be available in Q1 2013 28nm.

http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]s4-msm8960-krait-architecture.

I think Sony might have one phone coming in Q3 with S4 processor.

Based on all the facts I have seen there will not be a significant change in hardware from 2012 to 2013 as we have seen from 2011 to 2012.



http://www.eetimes.com/electr[....]lants-center-in-Silicon-Valley

Very interesting article about ST-ericsson.
"ST Ericsson has taped out a dual-core ARM Cortex A-15 set to ship in 2012. It will outgun rivals including the Omap 5 from Texas Instruments because the STE chip uses the Imagination Rogue graphics core, said Gilles Delfassy, chief executive of ST Ericsson and former head of TI's wireless business unit. Due to use of a new vector-processing architecture, the chip should also have smaller size, cost and power consumption than its rivals, he added"

How recent is your information about the delay? This article is pretty recent
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Posted: 2012-02-06 22:46:20
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DACHA Posts: > 500


On 2012-02-06 22:46:20, motvikt wrote:

On 2012-02-06 21:57:01, DACHA wrote:

On 2012-02-06 21:39:03, argiriano wrote:

On 2012-02-06 20:33:33, motvikt wrote:
Yea I also think its a phone with s4, which is smart. S(E) should release phones when new platforms are available instead of playing catch up later. Hopefully Mint will have STE 9600, putting in the absolute top of mobile phones.

Well, Imagination had delayed PowerVR 6 significantly so it will be much longer 'till we see some ST-E 9600 powered devices. Reports say H1 2013.


You are right. For H2 2012 there will be the Tegra 3 40nm, Samsung Samsung Exynos 4212/5250 32nm, TI OMAP 5 28nm
and Qualcomm Krait 28nm.

The ST-Ericsson NovaThor LP9600 (Nova A9600) is supposed to be available in Q1 2013 28nm.

http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]s4-msm8960-krait-architecture.

I think Sony might have one phone coming in Q3 with S4 processor.

Based on all the facts I have seen there will not be a significant change in hardware from 2012 to 2013 as we have seen from 2011 to 2012.



http://www.eetimes.com/electr[....]lants-center-in-Silicon-Valley

Very interesting article about ST-ericsson.
"ST Ericsson has taped out a dual-core ARM Cortex A-15 set to ship in 2012. It will outgun rivals including the Omap 5 from Texas Instruments because the STE chip uses the Imagination Rogue graphics core, said Gilles Delfassy, chief executive of ST Ericsson and former head of TI's wireless business unit. Due to use of a new vector-processing architecture, the chip should also have smaller size, cost and power consumption than its rivals, he added"

How recent is your information about the delay? This article is pretty recent


The other article was from October last year.

http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]gue-gpus-released-to-licensing

This one is from January with an estimated release of 2013?.
What is strange is that it is rumored that the next iPad will use the Gogue 6 GPU and release in late March/April

Time will tell.
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Posted: 2012-02-06 23:09:21
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DACHA Posts: > 500

This should clarify everything.

At ST-Ericsson the word is: “At this time, we are still planning the A9600 as a 28nm product sampling in 2012 and we are working with ST and the ISDA alliance,” says Pam McCracken.

http://www.electronicsweekly.[....]012/52902/st-e-coy-on-28nm.htm
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Posted: 2012-02-06 23:14:20
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Karun Posts: > 500

So this means we'll probably be seeing devices based on qualcomm 28nm processor? Any chances that we'll be seeing a quad core powering mint and hayabusa or Sony is going to stick to dual core for the year?
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Posted: 2012-02-07 06:57:08
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argiriano Posts: 305


On 2012-02-06 23:09:21, DACHA wrote:

This one is from January with an estimated release of 2013?.
What is strange is that it is rumored that the next iPad will use the Gogue 6 GPU and release in late March/April

Time will tell.

This is strange, because ST-Ericsson was first to licence IT Rogue months before others which means they have to be first at the market with a product. We`ll see.
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Posted: 2012-02-07 07:55:16
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randomuser Posts: > 500

Guys those of you with friends at ST-Ericsson, can you confirm when the A9600 will go into mass production ?
If it won't be available this year, the A9540 is good too. Dual 1.85 ghz cortex A9
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-02-07 07:59 ]

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Posted: 2012-02-07 08:57:52
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randomuser Posts: > 500

Some info on the hayabusa. It will be the first Global LTE smartphone from Sony since the Ion is US only. Of course LTE might not be functional in all countries but the handset itself will have LTE support.
Device Name Xperia Xi
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-02-07 08:26 ]

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Posted: 2012-02-07 09:25:38
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