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brym! Posts: 75


On 2007-11-02 19:09:49, adrusa wrote:

Windows mobile phones are total minifits, they are powerful PDAs but awful phones. I currently keep an XDA2i as a backup phone in case any of my two regular phones get a problem. I sold an imate k-jam to purchase my SE P990 and inspite of all the iphone hypes, I shelled out my entire annual savings to buy nokia e90, the very week it became available in Nigeria! Windows mobile phones are too much of the same thing. Often shining silver plastics with no real keypad or some funny awkward keyboards that are useful when your phone has been put in some unnatural positions! Interface wise, all WM are the same boring thing with very little attempt at brand differentiation by all manufacturers.




Your personal opinion, adrusa.
I see a lot of differentiation in keyboard styles and manufacturers' and operators' customization. Among smarphones, the platform has more licensees(manufacturers) than any other platform. Give me your E90 anyday, I'll sell it to buy the HTC Tytn II, not minding the weight.?My only complain is that generally WM devices are over priced relative to other smartphones.
 Thank God Microsoft is planning to address this issue soon.?__________
Always Exploring Possibilities

[ This Message was edited by: brym! on 2007-11-02 22:00 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-02 20:40:16
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OluYom Posts: > 500

While I have only ever played with one WM device, I have seen enough specs and reviews to say that there is a wide range of differentiation in features, performance and capabilities. No, they are not all the same. I bet that someone not used to Symbian s60 can also easilly say that all s60 devices are essentially the same - and be right in a sense, and absolutely wrong in another.

Unfortunately, the often absurd pricing of WM and Palm products will likely keep me from ever purchasing one of them. For much less, I can always pick a Symbian device that is just as (if not more) capable as any WM/Palm device.
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Posted: 2007-11-02 22:57:00
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brym! Posts: 75

Concerning BlackBerries, I browsed the net with one for about an hour today. I observed that it often went for mobile versions of most sites. The owner believes it is an MTN restriction to reduce data traffic since subcribers have unlimited data ceiling after paying the N5,000 monthly rental.
So this confirms that while Glo BB has a data traffic ceiling of 10 MB, MTN doesn't. But can Glo's BB browser access all sites? That's research for another day.
Happy weekend, all.
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Posted: 2007-11-02 23:39:56
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abubakar Posts: 109

@ adrusa: the adobe photoshop on my computer is ripping at the seams with photos. There is hardly a day that i dont take a photo or a video of my son doing something crazy. Other times if i see a good nature shot like the sun rise i posted a few months back i snap away. I should have at least 3000 phone pics on my pc and backed up on discs. This ranges from photos taken with my t68i, t630, s700, p900 and my p990.
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Posted: 2007-11-03 13:31:28
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ambyzown Posts: 231

Talking about WM phones, if rumours are anything to go by, SonyEricsson plan to announce a WM device in Q1 of 2008. Maybe that way, prices of WM based phones will become affordable.

Plus there's quite an array of phones to be announced on November 15th including the P3i
Yummy!!!
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Posted: 2007-11-03 14:01:09
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OluYom Posts: > 500

A WM-based Sony Ericsson? That sounds like treason against Symbian. And can we be sure the result will be lower prices? Moto played with WM and I am not sure the Qs are as affordable as the average Symbian device.
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Posted: 2007-11-03 16:05:00
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adrusa Posts: 10

I have what i could say was a long time relationship with windows mobile. I owned in order xda (the first wm phone), xda 2, xda 2i, pda2k, hp 1615 (first ipaq with phone), imate k-jam. They often have hardware specs that truly look different and sound exciting to tech loving newbies.
I maintain my assertion about their being good pda and lousy phones. And about the interface, I maintain that there are no brand specific differentiation between say HTC, E-ten or Asus devices. Even icons are the same!
I know it is difficult to persuade people to stop loving their gadgets, but when I shelled out 140k to buy e90 knowing fully well that I can buy 2 or 3 good wm devices with this money, I was drawing on my long time experience and association with wm. Trust me on this, one day, the wow factor will wear off and if you really need a good converged device (as opposed to a toy to thrill your friends), you will move away from wm to more serious things.
SE and even Nokia can and probably should do wm to satisfy people who want it. One problem with wm is that it is not supported by people who have real experience and expertise in phone making. Maybe Nokia's incursion into wm realm can bring a good phone out of this good pda os.
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Posted: 2007-11-04 09:28:00
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brym! Posts: 75

Earlier this year, the rumour was that SE and HTC may merge. A couple of months back, a trusted Chinese newspaper hinted that SE asked HTC to build it one million OEM units of an unspecified model.
It seems so unlikely that SE will partner with HTC (WM largest licensee) not after SE and Nokia snubbed Microsoft years ago when MS was learning the ropes of cell phone business. The fear of Nokia, SE and a couple of other manufacturers was that given the financial base of MS, it might later monopolise smartphone OS market as it did PCs.
MS partnered Sendo to learn the business, dumped Sendo and gave an uprising HTC its first major license.
SE going WM will be like SE punching Nokia below the belt and that will be a major victory for MS. Well, time will tell if all these are rumours, Q1 is not far off.
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Posted: 2007-11-04 10:08:06
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brym! Posts: 75

@adrusa: Generally, brand customizations to core OS interface are little and this not particular to WM devices alone. Check other platforms and you'll agree that relatively, WM customizations are more.
If you are saying WM interface has not changed significantly from PPC 2002 to WM6, I agree with you. This is glaring when compared to improvements in Symbian devices. But have you observed that other platforms are adopting the "dull" WM Today(stanby) screen where messages, appointments,tasks are easily accessed?
Today, the iPhone interface is currently influencing improvements in interface in all platforms. New HTC devices now have Touchflo running on WM interface. UIQ users now have Gdesk, a free UI app that has spiced up the UIQ interface. Even Nokia does not want to be left out. So I already see MS reworking WM6 for full touch experience.

This may interest you.
http://blogs.msdn.com/windows[....]7/11/01/shadow-homescreen.aspx

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[ This Message was edited by: brym! on 2007-11-04 15:00 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-04 15:23:05
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OluYom Posts: > 500

Adrusa: I agree completely that WM devices are good PDAs and lousy phones (generic-speaking). However, like brym! said, user interfacee differences - even in Symbian or Palm devices - are just as minimal across a wide range of models.
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Posted: 2007-11-04 16:30:00
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