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Thats one lucky guy and one hell of a stupid service provider.
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Posted: 2006-10-31 20:07:49
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@jmash: I'm in two minds about the fraud your friend committed...Good for him if he had been screwed by service providers all his life but I also feel lying about something like a cellphone sets a bad precedent...where will it stop? Next up he might be contemplating an insurance scam.
One word that comes to mind when I hear of people trying to beat the system is: Karma.
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Posted: 2006-10-31 20:38:25
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@ brix, yeah, the karma drove over your dogma thing:) Funny enough there seems to be these universal rules. No matter what you believe they apply. Karma's christian equivalent would be the what you sow is what you reep thing. Dont know what the other cultural equivalents are. And sometimes i become aware of the Biblical ones. Like the tithes thing. So many times i have been in financial trouble, and i meet my obligation of paying my tithe. Next thing i know money comes back in. I dont know if there are similar things in other religions, but it is weird how it works. I almost dare compare it to gravity-whether you believe in it or not, it applies to you. But that is all the eerie spiritual stuff. So why is everybody so quiet lately?
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Posted: 2006-10-31 21:52:24
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I agree. He was lucky, but at the same time what do we learn if we manage to evade the consequences of our actions?
My feeling on karma / cause and effect is that it works in ways that aren't always 'logical' in our understanding of the word. Sometimes we act in ways that we know are not right, and we sit with a deep sense of unease and shame for months. Karma doesn't mean that our actions will return in the form that they left in; sometimes karma is a lasting happiness brought about by a gesture, or shame that creeps so close to the bone that it causes insomnia.
I'm not getting off topic. I'm trying to say that karma usually tries more subtle reform before it whacks us through the face with a baseball bat.
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Posted: 2006-10-31 21:59:00
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@francois, my patience wears thin with Christianity for various reasons. The texts are contradictory, over-edited, and it's been proven time and again that the bible is not an objective or fair representation of the original Christian tenets. What really has me is the way Christians will cling to their beliefs mercilessly without reading through spiritual texts from other religions / sources. I'm not condemning all of Christianity, i'm predicting that the world is fast opening its eyes to the scientific facts of life. The bible, these days, is best interpreted in allegorical terms.
But yes. We will reap that which we sow. I just wish the Christians who feel it's their mission to convert the world would listen to Jesus re judgement.
Sorry for this one guys, had a bad bad encounter with a Bible-waver this weekend.
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Posted: 2006-10-31 22:15:00
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On 2006-10-31 21:59:00, psychonymphe wrote:
...sometimes karma is a lasting happiness brought about by a gesture...
Psycho, that's a brilliant line, and easily one of the best definitions i've ever heard!
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Posted: 2006-11-01 04:59:00
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PW Botha is dead.
EDIT: One of the most hated politicians ever in South Africa along with Manto and Gatsha.
Here's a brilliant article on his life from the
Financial Times.
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Posted: 2006-11-01 05:10:00
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@kryptik, re PW, sarcasm?
PW Botha tarnished my family's surname irreparably. Every time i have to introduce myself people somehow remember PW's engagement to my grandfather's second wife after my grandfather's death. Too bad they didnt marry, the cow was in need of a more apt surname.
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Posted: 2006-11-01 08:16:00
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@da krypsta: I sincerely hope that was sarcasm...For many white folk he was like the Ayatollah...a spritual leader that would lead them to the promised land.
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Posted: 2006-11-01 08:45:29
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Check this out:
'Tower of Babel' translator made
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/health/6083994.stm
@ psycho, I must agree that Christians are tough people to get along with sometimes. I think it was Ghandi that said, "The only reason he never became a Christian was because of Christians." I have left my childhood church specifically as it was just a game there. Not that they were not serious, but they seemed to have the cat by the tail sometimes. The new church I go to now have truly mature people, people who seem to be level-headed about God, and not all spiritual when you talk to them, they are real, and in the same breath are further than a lot of people I have met.
Coming down to science, take evolution for example, how am I supposed to believe theories like this when it is a theory, and there are so many variations, so many differences, and no conclusive proof? People use things like Stalagmites and Stalactites as proof of "Millions and millions of years", because it's formation takes so long and is so slow, then you find a rather big stalactite that has formed in 40 years in some man-made structure, shattering these theories to pieces. Fossils, millions of years old, then you find a top hat fossilized right next to it. Either we had pretty civilized cavemen, or governments who are teaching us crap. I go with the latter. Government covers up so much, and there is so much corruption, and trying to convince me that what we are taught is 100% correct is silly. I like questioning a lot of things. I do not go against science, in fact, science based on solid proof is good, and I agree with it. I read that one of the top universities, (not sure which, since the Register seems to be off-line right now) are putting money towards trying to find out how things started. Now at least they don't just go for the evolution thing, and are trying to figure it out. Better than grabbing onto some guys theory(Darwin) and making it The Truth.
Okay, sorry for all that crap...Just in a writing mood.
Top links for now:
www.hellkom.co.za
They got this cool little flash thing where you pull Ivy Matsepe Casaburri by the nose...lots of fun! And the main article: "Minister: Impact of Neotel will be felt by Christmas'- Not much more informative than any article relating to government. But yeah...
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Posted: 2006-11-01 09:21:27
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