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i WOULD sell my satio but who do you think i can fool here with it? In my country people buy Nokia and Samsung, and alot of people who want a smartphone are documented, and can see that Satio sucks. I wanted to trade it with someone for a X10 + some cash difference from me. No luck ofc.
It can take nice shots when there is alot of light and outside. Thats it. I really dont use it anymore only for calling. So make me an offer and i will sell it to you (if you like it so much be a collector, get 2).
Pity because it has the hardware potential.. It can be a monster phone... but it is = to shit if its unhacked.
Yet you are angry at me but you havent said anything about the sample crops.
I like watching how you guys post pictures, especially anouk. But in most cases it sucks monkeyballs even compared to the Elm (ask the modders).
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Posted: 2010-09-06 22:08:40
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a couple more pictures
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Posted: 2010-09-07 03:52:44
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@norbi_nw, there is something wrong with those crops. The satio images look resized, there are compression artifacts from jpg compression not found on an unresized pic. Also they are slightly larger, as if the pics were taken from further away then enlarged. It may just have something to do with the different focal lengths of the pixon and satio. (30 to 35mm)
In anycase, the Pixon 12 is a great camera phone, no doubt. But you should check the GSM Arena Pixon12/Satio comparison closer - the cameras came out as a tie overall. They were full of praise for both cameras. So if Satio is as good as Pixon, or Pixon as good as Satio so what? How does this make Satio a crap cameraphone??
btw, regarding complaints of the speed of the camera ui, which personally I don't find too bad, about the same as C905, this is what gsmarena have to say:
Both of the handsets perform admirably in this test. Even though they have 50 percent more information to process than their 8MP predecessors, they still manage to be faster. We find the results of the Satio particularly impressive as smartphones usually have much slower camera interfaces than feature phones. That and the fact that it manages to do better in the most frequently used shooting-with-preview scenario are enough for us to pronounce it the winner here.
You shouldn't also forget that the Satio comes with the ultra fast BestPic burst shooting mode, which takes up to 9 shots in a rapid succession in full resolution.
[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2010-09-07 02:55 ]
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Posted: 2010-09-07 03:53:20
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Again, im not saying its crap, its mediocre. Vivaz is better and Elm too. And non of those 2 where advertised as entertainment unlimited. Its the first and still only 12mpx camera from sony, and still they wont make it more better. It could easily blow everything away, i know that, but the crap software (the software is the huge crap here) makes it mediocre. Idiot SE developers arent interested in further tuning. They are really really dumb IMO. Should get a Nobel prize for dumbness. Never did SE improve their phones camera quality. I bet much more can be done with it, at least they should have made it full unlocked so we the customers take care of further modding. Samsung is always beating SE in details. omnia HD beat the C905 in details and the Pixon12 is beating Satio in details. Colors are ok in both phones, SE is always red-ish. Some shots where failed on GSMarena, but the phone is not a joke. Too bad it came with a crappy OS. Thats why i am mad, 1 phone has good OS (clearly im not working about the satio here) and one has good camera.. One can do this good and the other something else. I dont know why cant we get all in one phone.
So again you cant convince me that Satio is more then mediocre, because i owned ALOT of phones and i have saw the evolution of some high end phones. I am not blinded by SE nor by other manufacturers. Im just saying it can do more..
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Posted: 2010-09-07 10:14:59
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Posted: 2010-09-07 11:29:27
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Posted: 2010-09-07 12:04:43
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On 2010-09-07 10:14:59, norbi_nw wrote:
Again, im not saying its crap, its mediocre. Vivaz is better and Elm too. And non of those 2 where advertised as entertainment unlimited. Its the first and still only 12mpx camera from sony, and still they wont make it more better. It could easily blow everything away, i know that, but the crap software (the software is the huge crap here) makes it mediocre. Idiot SE developers arent interested in further tuning. They are really really dumb IMO. Should get a Nobel prize for dumbness. Never did SE improve their phones camera quality. I bet much more can be done with it, at least they should have made it full unlocked so we the customers take care of further modding. Samsung is always beating SE in details. omnia HD beat the C905 in details and the Pixon12 is beating Satio in details. Colors are ok in both phones, SE is always red-ish. Some shots where failed on GSMarena, but the phone is not a joke. Too bad it came with a crappy OS. Thats why i am mad, 1 phone has good OS (clearly im not working about the satio here) and one has good camera.. One can do this good and the other something else. I dont know why cant we get all in one phone.
So again you cant convince me that Satio is more then mediocre, because i owned ALOT of phones and i have saw the evolution of some high end phones. I am not blinded by SE nor by other manufacturers. Im just saying it can do more..
omnia HD camera is slower than satio and slower than c905. Detail maybe about the same but no xenon flash. Slowness of satio os, yes but doesn't seem any worse than any other s60. So I think se have done what they can regarding ui responsiveness. It would have been interesting had satio been win mobile or android but it's not and we knew that from the start. As to people expecting se to upgrade satio to android or symbian 3 that's delusional. It'd be far too expensive to develop a new os firmware for an existing phone, you might as well start again from scratch on a completely new phone. What we got is what we got se never lied about it.
Btw, I've owned a few high end cameraphones myself, including the omnia i8910, c905, k800. Also a range of nokia and samsung phones so I'm going by experience as much as you are.
[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2010-09-07 12:35 ]
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Posted: 2010-09-07 13:32:16
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You know what ? im not even remotely interested in reading norbi_nw's posts, in fact i just didnt read them. This thread is for posting pictures and not for slagging off the Satio. If they want to do so let them in another thread. In my previous post i wanted to include some pictures, unfortunately at the time of posting imageshack was playing up and i couldnt upload. Now im at my girlfriends house for a few days and she has no USB cable or Bluetooth for me to transfer my pictures to her laptop.
Anyway, all i have to say to such fools who think the Satio has a bad camera is this. It doesnt. norbi_nw said the Satio image quality sucks after my post. He is uneducated - how can he comment on images on my phone he has not even seen ? he is clearly of bad opinion without any proof. What a stupid comment to make.
The Satio is far from perfect and pictures posted on here probably dont look as good as a K750i from 2005, but thats because they have to be resized so much more to fit the forum. Images on my Satio look amazing on my tv at home in 1080p resolution when stored on my PS3.
Please guys, stop trying to force your bad opinions onto other people when they know better. Its like me trying to convince you are not you ! its ridiculous !
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Posted: 2010-09-07 15:37:06
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OMG etaab... I also have 1 Satio, so i can comment on image quality. In fact another friend of mine has one too, so its not a faulty unit. Its the crapy software that makes it mediocre. Why do you think i have to see YOU pictures to say something? I own one too. And believe me its not because of the resized samples. Whatever, there is no use for argument here as you are satisfied with this product to the max, and dont (wouldnt like) want any improvement.. I am one of those guys who constantly fixes things, constantly wants to improve things that i have. Too bad it cant be done on the satio as it is locked in all possible ways. Cant believe the idiots released an update for the vivaz and none for the satio.
So be happy with your satio, i know i wont buy another SE phone again. Is it so hard to say "yes its not that good, it could use some improvement, but they wont give it to us, so what can we do... just be happy with what we got".??
Well the end.
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Posted: 2010-09-07 16:32:15
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I agree, this thread is for pics only, perhaps a mod could remove the missplaced posts to a thread better suited
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Posted: 2010-09-07 16:36:29
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