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Which is what frustrates me about the 1020 thread. There little to no point in comparing the 808 and 1020 anymore. Everything for the 808 and Symbian is ending. They stopped manufacturing it early this year, now the store isn't accepting apps (in a couple of months) not to mention nobody even sold the damn thing meaning if you wanted one you really had to search and pay cash for it sim free, in the UK at least.
So here we are wanting to discuss the future, the 1020, to find we're stuck in the 808 thread repeating what is essentially the same discussion because the 1020 thread is locked.
The 808 sadly is dead as much as Symbian is. Nokia killed it, nobody else did. People in the 1020 thread were discussing the two but theres no point. I wouldn't compare the 1020 with my old Sony DSC-P71 from 2003 since regardless of image quality, one I cannot buy, its gone, deceased, no longer existing.
The few 808's which were made and are still available via ebay should be kept as collectors items. The camera is currently still the best in the cameraphone world but that's not enough to keep it in the limelight. Ive wanted one since the day it was announced but never had the chance to get one.
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2013-10-06 19:41 ]
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Posted: 2013-10-06 20:40:35
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Every thing you say is correct Etaab and I totally agree with you.
I have just bought my 1020 and only because it is the best cameraphone behind the 808, I do not want to discuss nor compare the attributes of the two of them I was just musing what results an experienced 808 user like Sylwester would get with the 1020, he has produced some of the best photos on here that ive seen.
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Posted: 2013-10-06 21:09:38
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I still think the 1020 is every bit as capable as the 808. I believe its where it falls short of the 808 is the Nokia Pro Camera app, which clearly needs more options for the user to decided between a raw image and one which has been processed by means of sharpening, saturation boosting etc.
Nokia need to listen to the complaints and update the app. If they did, everyone would be like " 808 who ?? "
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Posted: 2013-10-06 23:24:07
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Nokia Pro Camera is unnecessary application does not raise the quality of pictures I do not use!
95% of the pictures I posted on Esato is an original photograph taken without enhancers were not edited.
Nokia 808 is a smartphone for people who love the photos, of all the others is in second place!
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Posted: 2013-10-06 23:41:10
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Well it is a necessary app, since without it the 1020 is forced to use the default WP camera app, which cannot take 41mp pictures.
So that's not strictly true, is it ?
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Posted: 2013-10-06 23:55:58
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Nokia said it is planning to merge the Pro and Smart can apps into one
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Posted: 2013-10-07 00:33:00
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Anyone who has any basic understating of photography in general will pick the 808 over the 1020.. its a no brainer.
In the Sylwester's case.. its obvious since he a very capable photographer.
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Posted: 2013-10-07 19:51:52
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Of which so am I, however since the phone was never available in the UK and still to this day holds a ridiculous price to either have it imported or a second hand unit, justifying that purchase to your partner, wife or parents makes the phone completely out of reach.
Ive wanted the 808 since day one just for its camera, but could never get one.
Now we have a device with us that is just as capable, which I still believe it is pending updates of the app, but available free on contracts now that its actually supported by the local networks will pick the 1020.
The last time I checked the 808 was £550+ in the UK, that's £550 for a phone which is now becoming more obsolete not by the month but by the day. If photography is that important, i'd rather spend that money on a pretty decent DSLR camera. The 1020 I can get for free on a contract which is only £34 a month.
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Posted: 2013-10-07 22:17:02
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You should get the 1020 .. I think it might be a good fit for your needs. I was talking about people that actually passionate about photography.. there is no way someone like that would downgrade to a 1020, it makes no sense.
For some strange reason the 808 went up in price since the 1020 came out .. not sure why. It was selling for under $400 two months ago and now you can't find a new one under $450
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Posted: 2013-10-07 23:12:15
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But that's exactly the point im making, which you're missing !
The 808 is a brilliant device and im completely passionate about photography - but the 808 is totally out of reach and not a viable option for almost everybody now.
If you are that passionate about photography, you'd just buy a DSLR. They're priced about the same as a 808 for a basic setup which can achieve the same results as a 808 which you can slowly build on with new lenses, filters, flashes, tools and such..
(why on earth would you go to the silly effort of buying a cameraphone which does less and less and the weeks go on)
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Posted: 2013-10-07 23:23:14
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