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Clearday Posts: 95

@scots,have u seen that definete "integrations" here yet?huh EU?
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Posted: 2004-12-21 13:30:42
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boto43 Posts: > 500

pretty girl wrote :
Quote:But we do have immigrants? That is what you're saying, right?
Sorry but no



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Posted: 2004-12-21 14:37:46
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Vlammetje Posts: > 500

then perhaps you should say (in a manner that i can understand) what exactly it is that you think the Dutch and the British are unable to understand and why
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Posted: 2004-12-21 14:46:07
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Clearday Posts: 95

@boto,

he tries to say,u may be not understand what imigration meaning and earning money abroad and being an important part of in Gross national income in different country.(he tries to connect his sentences with GNP amounts,numbers what I said on top)

-and u said that "no boto,we surely understand what it means,we have many people who earns money abroad and find a better life standart."

-so there s no problem left.

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Posted: 2004-12-21 15:07:37
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dave_uk Posts: > 500

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On 2004-12-21 13:05:11, absinthebri wrote:
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On 2004-12-21 12:57:06, dave_uk wrote:
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On 2004-12-21 12:47:51, absinthebri wrote:
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On 2004-12-21 12:38:36, dave_uk wrote:
@Vlamm

Point taken, although I find the terrorists that are given a platform by Al-Jazeera rather less easy to stomach than the rather tamer versions of Fox, CNN, Sky etc. But that's a whole other can of worms...



Unlike the terrorists that have killed over 15,000 innocent Iraqi civilians given a platform by the BBC and CNN?


See the bold because I knew you wouldn't be able to resist, and there is obviously another agenda at work here. So, since this is someone else's thread about a legitimate topic, that I have no wish to send way off-course, how about we don't start this yet again.



You're the onw who's attempting to dis Arabs. I won't comment on what you don't start but as YOU can't resist an occaision to disseminate your hate-filled, half-baked views, I won't resist the chance to pull you up on it.


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On 2004-12-21 13:05:11, absinthebri wrote:
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On 2004-12-21 12:57:06, dave_uk wrote:
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On 2004-12-21 12:47:51, absinthebri wrote:
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On 2004-12-21 12:38:36, dave_uk wrote:
@Vlamm

Point taken, although I find the terrorists that are given a platform by Al-Jazeera rather less easy to stomach than the rather tamer versions of Fox, CNN, Sky etc. But that's a whole other can of worms...



Unlike the terrorists that have killed over 15,000 innocent Iraqi civilians given a platform by the BBC and CNN?


See the bold because I knew you wouldn't be able to resist, and there is obviously another agenda at work here. So, since this is someone else's thread about a legitimate topic, that I have no wish to send way off-course, how about we don't start this yet again.



You're the onw who's attempting to dis Arabs. I won't comment on what you don't start but as YOU can't resist an occaision to disseminate your hate-filled, half-baked views, I won't resist the chance to pull you up on it.


Really? I don't think anything I have said in this thread could be construed as either hate-filled or half-baked, or in fact untrue. Is this another case of absinthebri spoiling for a fight, for a change...

Are you an Arab, Mr Absinthe, as surely only someone with a particularly vested interest could take offence at such an innocuous couple of posts?

For the record, I am certain that the majority of Arabs, like the majority of people are decent, peace-loving people, and that Islam is a religion that preaches just that. It is extremism that I, and apparently most of the world, object to and yes of course I have a bias in this situation, as I will admit (and have previously) - who doesn't? I'm not, however, attempting to hide mine.

If you want to preach at someone, why not become a cleric?!
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Posted: 2004-12-21 15:22:28
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absinthebri Posts: 476

You're the one claiming al-Jazeera is biased. I'll take your evidence on that. You're the one claiming al-Jazeera gives a platform to "terrorists". I'll take your evidence on that. My only "agenda" is the truth and you appear to be so off the scale you don't see your own xenophobia. This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2004-12-21 15:33:53
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Clearday Posts: 95

@absinthebri,
I agree u...dave tries to push some racist and use some bulls..t words...he bleeds discrimination,hatred.He is no such a well-balanced guy,good-tempered.Different cultures create welfare.Look America...
U said something then u says;I havent said it...It goes like these...


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Posted: 2004-12-21 15:45:46
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boto43 Posts: > 500

@clearday,racist to arabs Arent they whites too? Sorry Im not sure about it
dave pls stop quoting,I dont know who has been quoting who
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Posted: 2004-12-21 15:56:33
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dave_uk Posts: > 500

@absinthebri

Oh, come on - are you seriously claiming that you don't believe that Al-Jazeera is biased. Don't get me wrong, it is merely an exaggerated example of media bias prevalent in the BBC as much as anybody else. They're just rather cleverer about disguising it. What is more, I would fully expect an Arab-owned, funded and run organisation to be biased in the same way as I would expect an American, British or Israeli organisation to be the same, as they invariably are. It's just that I would expect people to realise that, not be so blinded by the distortions that they are shown that they lose all sense of reality. I am not making generic statements about Arab people and I do not either dislike or fear Islam, therefore I am not xenophobic.

@clearday

You are a slanderous little muppet. I am no racist, neither is there any justification for calling me so. The fact that you may not understand what I am saying does not make it bullshit. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, and neither it appears does anybody else. Take your stupid, ignorant views elsewhere or alternatively find a forum in which you are able to express yourself with words rather than cheap insults.

@boto

Apologies for all the quotes
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Posted: 2004-12-21 16:16:09
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Vlammetje Posts: > 500

yeah pls stop the quoting

and while we're at it, I think it's time to suggest we should NOT turn this thread into an argument on racism/any other form of hate or fear.

Surely we've all seen the threads on this and similar topics in the past, surely we all know what they lead to: more anger and hate u;timately.

Much as i respect everybody's opinion on the matter, this thread is about European society and EU so i dare say a discussion on terrorism/al jazeera/racism may be called off topic.

Also it's tiring, it's saddening and it's aggrevating. It's what brings out the wors6t in most of us and I for one do not care for another read of it all in this thread.

So I hope you will all be able to swallow you pompous arguments, your egos and your pride and continue on topic.

I thank you.
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Posted: 2004-12-21 16:19:26
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