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amawanqa Posts: > 500

@ Francois,
Er..OK, seems you escaped this:

Roadblocks jam Pretoria solid
15/11/2006 23:26 - (SA)


Pretoria traffic was badly disrupted by a traffic operation launched by local authorities to find offenders. (Felix Dlangamandla, Beeld)


Pta plunged in traffic chaos

84 held for drunken driving

Motorists arrested over fines

Traffic blitz nets R48 900





Hilda Fourie , Beeld


Pretoria - Roadblocks set up by Tshwane's metro police brought peak-hour traffic to a screeching halt on Wednesday as tempers rose among morning motorists.

Beeld heard that a taxi driver in Van Der Walt Street in the city centre simply got out and abandoned his vehicle.

Metro police were checking on motorists to see if there were any outstanding warrants against them.

Certified warrants of arrest were printed on the spot and the metropolitan police were able to pull in a substantial number of offenders.

About 600 licences were checked and 53 arrests made.

Motorists were backed up for two blocks and had to wait for 10 to 35 minutes in Van der Walt Street.

35 minutes to drive two blocks

The corners of Van der Walt and Vermeulen streets and Potgieter and Boom streets were just two of the points where the metro police began checking licences from 06:00.

A ticked-off Nico Cornelius said: "It took me 35 minutes to drive two blocks. My brother had to get to school to write an exam."

Peter Mathibeng was on his way to a meeting in Johannesburg.

" How could the metro police choose peak hour? It doesn't make sense," he said.

Hugo Marais said: "It's the dumbest idea I've heard of in a long time.

"The (metro) police should rather arrest taxi drivers, who do just as they like."

'Something that had to be done'

Kathryn Siller did not agree: "I'm glad the police are doing it because I would rather that motorists who shouldn't be on the road are taken off."

Hlula Msimang, head of Tshwane metro police, apologised to law-abiding motorists who had been inconvenienced.

"The police have been warning people for a long time to pay their fines. This operation was something that had to be done."
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Posted: 2006-11-16 11:40:48
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francoislr Posts: 53

@ wanqa, we had a similar block on Tuesday on the route, but being in the far lane or prayer(which seemed to work for the guy I catch a lift with, i had an exam, so not with him) seemed to help.

Jim just told me he saw something on the news about the followers of Jedi wanting it to become a full-fledged recognized religion...Now just imagine a whole bunch of Jedi walking around with plastic sabers:-) lol!

Use the force!

Imagine this:
"You do not need to see my license, officer."
"You can go!"

That could work;-)
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Posted: 2006-11-16 12:18:58
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amawanqa Posts: > 500

@ Francois,
LMAO!! How handy would that be...

Psychiatrists could find Jedi powers handy too...imagine in a pseudo- Yoda voice with a patient:
"How feel you? Afraid are you? I sense much fear in you... "

Maybe Tony Yengeni already has Jedi powers:
" I don't have to follow parole protocol..."

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[ This Message was edited by: amawanqa on 2006-11-16 12:12 ]
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Posted: 2006-11-16 13:11:45
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francoislr Posts: 53

lol! that is funny!

So, what can we learn from all of this? A lot of people, if not everyone are looking for something to believe in. Some go look everywhere, some find it straight away. Some will believe wholeheartedly in something that is DEFINITELY fiction, not at all based in any historical fact whatsoever. Then some people prefer the scientific rule.

So what to believe? The ancients were all obviously retarded despite coming up with the wheel, building the pyramids (with their close friend E.T and their pals, of course) and let us not forget Stonehenge. Stupid people could not even build the twin towers! So thus we are smarter. We have CNN, we have the US space program, we have way more couch potatoes than they had, and let us not forget Carhenge ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/w[....]7/A_Yool_Carhenge2_02Sep03.jpg )

It just always amazes me what we as humans conclude, what we will believe, and sometimes what we will not believe despite the obvious evidence. I blame the Illuminati:-)

Okay, me just pondering in a silly fashion as I tend to do...
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Posted: 2006-11-16 13:57:48
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medusa Posts: 0

Hiya all!

You gus probably know this by now but Glen Agliotti was arrested for Kebble's murder. Even more shocking is that Agliotti is friends with Jackie Selebi. And so my friends the plot thickens... But judge for yourselves. The extract below is from the mail and guardian.

The scene of the crime
The M&G has established that Agliotti called Selebi on his private cellphone on the night of Kebble’s murder, from a spot close to the scene of the shooting.

Selebi and Agliotti admit to a longstanding friendship. Both insist there was nothing sinister about their conversation in the immediate aftermath of Kebble’s death. Selebi this week told the M&G Agliotti had phoned him as he (Agliotti) approached the Johannesburg overpass where Kebble sat slumped behind the wheel of his Mercedes on the night of September 27.

Selebi said: “The first person to phone me was a journalist, [Sunday Independent editor] Jovial Rantao, then the assistant commissioner called ... At some point Glenn [Agliotti] phoned me to ask if I had heard. I said, ‘Glenn, when you get to the place please call me, and confirm that this is what has happened.’”

Agliotti told the M&G he had called Selebi en route to the murder scene because “we needed all the help we could get”. Later, his lawyer Kim Warren said on his behalf that he had phoned Selebi at about 10.30pm — around an hour and a half after the murder — to “request immediate investigation”.

Phone records show Agliotti and Kebble had a number of conversations on the night before the murder. During at least two of these calls, Kebble was in the vicinity of the same overpass where he would meet his death 24 hours later.

Agliotti was a well-known figure at the Johannesburg and Cape Town offices of JCI, the company headed by Kebble until a month before his death, and distributed business cards with a prominent JCI logo and JCI telephone number.

Agliotti said through his lawyers this week that he had “acted as a consultant to JCI after being approached to supply certain services. The nature of the services was, inter alia, to secure trading opportunities and raising funds for various projects of JCI over a number of years.”

Two former employees said Agliotti was close to Kebble’s strategic adviser and co-director at JCI, John Stratton, a figure who has loomed large in the forensic audit investigation into the alienation of assets from JCI and sister company Randgold & Exploration.

The M&G has learnt that Stratton, who coordinated major elements of Kebble’s sprawling private security and intelligence operation, recently left the country, apparently in a hurry.

“Of course I saw [Agliotti] around, he was one of John’s people, but I was warned to avoid him and all those guys, and I did,” said one former employee.

Former employees also say they associated Agliotti with the “security” work conducted by Clinton Nassif and his Central National Security Group (CNSG), which was contracted to both Kebble and JCI.

In a telephonic interview with the M&G, Selebi was sanguine about his relationship with Agliotti, saying they had been friends since at least 1994.

Asked about meetings at various restaurants, casinos and Agliotti’s Midrand offices, as well as claims that they had gone shopping together, he said they would have met at various places, and he did not keep a diary of where they had gone.

He flatly denied that they had gone gambling together. “I have never been inside a casino,” he said.

'Ubiquitous presence'
The network of relationships runs deeper than friendship between the police chief and Agliotti.

Nassif, whose CNSG still has a contract with JCI, shares an interest in Chieftain Investments 5 with Agliotti. According to Agliotti’s lawyers, Chieftain is a dormant company that never traded. They admit to a friendship between Agliotti and Nassif.

Nassif made headlines last year when it emerged that he had arranged for Kebble’s car to be removed from the crime scene before thorough forensic work could be completed. The Mercedes was towed to Danmar panelbeaters, which is owned by the brother-in-law of one of his employees.

Independent forensic investigator Dr David Klatzow was sharply critical of Nassif, saying the removal of the car compromised evidence. Klatzow also criticised the police management of the crime scene, which, he alleged, was not properly secured. When Klatzow was taken off the case by the Kebble family, he said he had the impression this was after Selebi had intervened.

Selebi insisted this week, however, that he thought police had done a thorough job at the scene.

Nassif was “a ubiquitous presence” at JCI in the black Hugo Boss suits that he favoured, according to people who worked there, and was involved in numerous aspects of security, from physical guarding to e-mail protection.

He also shares business interests with a number of other figures in the Kebble network: Brenda Madumise, still a director at Randgold and a director of a number of empowerment companies in the JCI orbit, is also a director in two of Nassif’s companies, MDN Motor Holdings and Nu-Sefika Mineral and Energy.

In addition to security, Nassif has a wide range of interests in the car industry. Some of these have earned him the close attention of the police, and laid bare his association with international criminal networks.

In October 2001 JR Auto Spares, one of his business premises, was raided by police and R10-million worth of BMW spares, allegedly stolen, were confiscated.

Nassif’s explanation may have done him more harm than good. He gave police a statement claiming he had legitimately imported the spares from a foreign entity, Gamarada Pty Ltd, citing his contact as a Joe Delfrange.

Foreign police who looked into this claim sent local investigators a report indicating that Joseph Frangieh — his correct name — and his partners in Gamarada had been involved in numerous cases of car theft and drug dealing.

In June 2002, when Frangieh was questioned about Nassif’s claims, he was in custody for drug offences. He told police through his lawyer that he knew Nassif, but had had no dealings with him involving BMW parts.

An NPA official this week said a decision had been made some time ago not to prosecute Nassif on this matter. This was contradicted by Selebi, who — despite denying any knowledge of CNSG — said he had recently had a report on the issue, and that it was “ongoing”.

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Kebble's murder is like something out of a blockbuster movie, it has all the suspense and drama, and probably has one hellavu ending!

Have a good pm!
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Posted: 2006-11-16 14:21:00
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francoislr Posts: 53

Interesting!

I have a little problem. I have a few threads that posts games for 320x240 games. I got this one game called Poetical from one of these threads. It is a Chinese game that has an English option. Translation is really bad, and I got to a point in the game and cannot get any further due to instruction that is bad or something. I have done everything you can do, and due to it being a RPG, I am pretty souped up. Anyone have any idea where I can go to get help?
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Posted: 2006-11-16 15:12:52
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Kryptik Posts: > 500

@Medusa, yebo, heard about the arrest this morning, all kinds of speculation flying about the staffroom. Hopefully Zuma, Sheik and Yengeni won't be involved in this one

Francois, not a clue, boeta, uxolo.

I have a leetle problemo of my own too, folks... Any ideas where i could download a manual for an iPod, preferably in txt or html format? I promised my niece i'd get her one if she did well in her final exam, which she has... thus i duly hunted around, found a few good deals on new 1 and 2gb units, but when i spotted a second-hand 20gb going for a song it was too good to pass up. It came with all its bits and pieces but no manual however... and knowing my niece she'll figure it out in no time, but i'd still like to have a manual available which i could print and include with the package.
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Posted: 2006-11-16 17:54:00
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amawanqa Posts: > 500

@ Kryptik,
What about here...?
http://www.apple.com/support/manuals/ipod/
These are pdf's.

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[ This Message was edited by: amawanqa on 2006-11-16 17:05 ]
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Posted: 2006-11-16 18:00:19
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Kryptik Posts: > 500

Now why didn't i think of going there in the first place! Thanx boet, it's a Monday for me
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Posted: 2006-11-16 18:19:00
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brix25 Posts: > 500

@medusa: There's a war going on in South Africa but it's not physical.
T-boz is probably scared to ask for a probe into Selebi whose himself has an ally of the president (why u all think the Zuma rape trial went so smoothly).
There's been too much smoke around Angliotti and Selebi...expect more arrests...dunno how the Scorpions will prosecute the bugger on the strength of evidence from another small-time crook who wants to save himself from a possible jail bid.
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Posted: 2006-11-16 22:03:00
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