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Er... clearday, is that last post meant for me?
If so, where did you get all that anti-islam stuff from?
I never realised my signature could potentially trigger a flame war!
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Posted: 2004-12-22 11:57:22
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@Sammy_boy,
of course this is not about u...how can u derived this result from my posts? it s about dave...just dave.ok?
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Posted: 2004-12-22 12:02:55
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On 2004-12-22 11:57:22, Sammy_boy wrote:
Er... clearday, is that last post meant for me?
If so, where did you get all that anti-islam stuff from?
I never realised my signature could potentially trigger a flame war!
dave_uk said "Though if Al-Jazeera is an indication of the cultural growth we can anticipate, God help us all, or at least those of us who aren't Islamic!"
Sammy, how do you interpret that in a non-racist way? I have repeatedly asked Dave to offer evidence that al_Jazeera is in any way biased; he has declined. Make up your own mind.
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Posted: 2004-12-22 12:03:17
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@scotsboy
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Following the entirely reasonable request for me to clarify the sentence that seems to have so outraged Clearday, I merely meant that the distorted views portrayed by such organisations as Al-Jazeera were dangerous when ignorant, or simply easily-led people who believe everything they see on the news, take all the sentiments as gospel. It is obviously not particularly dangerous to those who are Islamic (allow me to clarify once again that I do make a distinction between Islam and Al-Jazeera) as the sentiment expressed is not anti-Islamic, but anti-American, anti-Israeli and against the West in general.
I also would like to point that my original comment about Clearday's English, which may have been slightly ill-advised, is now point proven as he has clearly misunderstood what I said, (which I don't think was especially ambiguous, particularly when viewed alongside the rest of my comments) and accused me of being racist as a result.
What it comes down to is that those of you who "know" me from elsewhere on this forum, and whose opinions I value, are well aware that I am neither racist nor xenophobic - what the rest of you choose to believe, ably aided and abetted by everyone's favourite IN-flamer, absinthebri, is quite frankly up to you.
Life is simply too short...
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Posted: 2004-12-22 12:06:57
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On 2004-12-22 12:06:57, dave_uk wrote:
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...I merely meant that the distorted views portrayed by such organisations as Al-Jazeera were dangerous ...
Where's your evidence of any distortion? No matter how many times you repeat your lie, it still doesn't become the truth.
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Posted: 2004-12-22 12:10:55
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I wasn't trying to interpret it, just asking Dave UK to clarify what he's said, I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with him. Many disagreements and arguments seem to happen through misinterpretations, misquoting, or just plain interpreting something however they want to fit their own agendas.
@dave - clarify your point mate - this argument could have all been over a simple misunderstanding!
@absinthe - perhaps I am being overly optimisitc about human nature, but I am hoping that blatant racism (apart from those BNP morons) is dying out in the UK. I'm sure that Dave_UK isn't a Islam-hating nutter
Edit: @Dave_UK - oh, you have clarified it, sorry!
My point proved. He isn't a fascist at all, see!
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[ This Message was edited by: Sammy_boy on 2004-12-22 11:15 ]
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Posted: 2004-12-22 12:12:19
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He's lying? No he isnt. He's offering his opinion. absinthebri, once again, i see nothing but you being completely unwilling to listen to anyone who has a different viewpoint from you. Why do you react like this? Everyone is willing to listen to your views, and discuss them in a mature manner, but you call others with different views liars and racists! I really dont understand why you are so openly confrontational all the time. People let you speak. Let others speak. There is no clear right or wrong on this issue, its all a matter of personal opinion. Let others have their opinions too.
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Posted: 2004-12-22 12:17:55
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dave,
I see now u use ur sentences so friendly,or forced to be a good friend...But I see,U continuesly lie...
Man,we are not stupid,I m not a muppet that u said before.U abuse evrything,than u say I havent said it.Who believes in u?
u said here;
You are a slanderous little muppet,Take your stupid, ignorant views elsewhere or alternatively find a forum in which you are able to express yourself with words rather than cheap insults.
You are stupid - that I stand by.
"arent Islamic"
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Posted: 2004-12-22 12:20:57
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@methylated_spirit,
well done mate,U act as a deaf&blind as dave_uk.It s so easy to support who is from Uk.Coz u are all friends,and a friend always supports own friend.But dont forget,u must be near truth,not lies.
HEYYYY ALLLL PLEASE WHAT DO U UNDERSTAND FROM THESE WORDS?
>>>Hmmm....maybe. Time will tell, as always. Though if Al-Jazeera is an indication of the cultural growth we can anticipate, God help us all, or at least those of us who aren't Islamic!
dave says I ve misunderstood,so what have u understood from "arent Islamic" words? let me clarify please...
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Posted: 2004-12-22 12:25:35
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clearday, you need to read my post again, mate...
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Posted: 2004-12-22 12:37:09
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