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This house is beginning to smell like Nairaland "phone" forum...and our maturity is being disvirgined...we are only human right? oops!
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[ This Message was edited by: brym! on 2008-07-29 21:27 ]
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Posted: 2008-07-29 22:20:55
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@all:LMT 2 pms ok?
How come I see a two giga stick duo in Onitsha for #3.500,abi imitation dey?
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Posted: 2008-07-29 23:55:43
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@all: can someone put me straight. i thot wcdma was the next gen to cdma2000 3x. but while checking the specs of the w980, i saw it did wcdma. assuming reverse compatibility, does it mean i could use it on a cdma network (starcomms, multilinks, etc) or am i way off? i quickly googled to confirm but ddnt get anything satisfactory. thot one of u egg heads would know! it would be great if se went back to making cdma phones! i've had the intension to look for the last one they produced for my starcomms. think it was a version of the t610.
@ifed: As with every other red blooded nigerian here, i also apply for the awoof browsing info, but those that get the pm should be true blue members! so many times when gist of awoof browsing comes up, "new" members or habitual mias show up requesting. a few days later the link doesnt work. THERE ARE SPIES EVERYWHERE!!!
@mamba: i was reluctant to ask aya/oluyom the same question, thinking its somewhere in the thread. oya oluyom. talk ur own! and did celtel's mms actually work? i never heard of anyone using it. even my friends that work there! abi it works in just a few towns? or is it for postpaid only. pm me the settings if u can.
@oluyom: i'm begining to realise that the phone browser does have some aspects that opera mini doesnt. esp when u regulate urself to wap pages.
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Posted: 2008-07-30 12:16:00
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@ifed: imitation cards dey! be careful! before u buy, go online and check a few sites that show u the tattle tail signs. but if its legit i go buyo!
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Posted: 2008-07-30 12:32:00
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On 2008-07-30 12:16:00, abubakar wrote:
@all: can someone put me straight. i thot wcdma was the next gen to cdma2000 3x. but while checking the specs of the w980, i saw it did wcdma. assuming reverse compatibility, does it mean i could use it on a cdma network (starcomms, multilinks, etc) or am i way off? i quickly googled to confirm but ddnt get anything satisfactory. thot one of u egg heads would know!
I tried explaining this a looong time ago on this thread, but we ended up with an argument, and I simply walked away. So, here goes again:
WCDMA, while a CDMA standard, is actually what GSM networks use to deliver 3G (as GSM does not have the capacity to deliver broadband services on its own). This is why GSM networks need a new licence in order to offer 3G, while CDMA networks do not. It is also why they (GSM operators) very often need to setup a parallel network to what is already on ground for 2G/2.5G.
Again, while WCDMA is a CDMA standard, it is not compatible with CDMA 2000 on which the CDMA guys deploy their services. Basically, when you are talking of WCDMA, you are talking of UMTS or 3G on GSM networks. I hope I was able to present it as simple as possible.
In short, the W980 is only GSM-compatible, and won't work with Starcoms, ZoomMobile or any of the non-GSM networks.
On 2008-07-30 12:16:00, abubakar wrote:@mamba: i was reluctant to ask aya/oluyom the same question, thinking its somewhere in the thread. oya oluyom. talk ur own! and did celtel's mms actually work? i never heard of anyone using it. even my friends that work there! abi it works in just a few towns? or is it for postpaid only. pm me the settings if u can.
MMS never worked for me on Celtel (unless I am suffering from memory loss)
On 2008-07-30 12:16:00, abubakar wrote:
@oluyom: i'm begining to realise that the phone browser does have some aspects that opera mini doesnt. esp when u regulate urself to wap pages.
Very correct.
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Yomi Says - A non-conformist pastor and mobility geek has his say[ This Message was edited by: OluYom on 2008-07-30 12:41 ]
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Posted: 2008-07-30 13:39:27
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@ all, when mamba said the mms thingy is still on, he didn't mean the real mms, i dont think anyone has been able to send mms on celtel since...forever!
Anyway, what he meant is that the cheat used in browsing for free on celtel/Zain is still on and not yet blocked. it's called mms thingy cos somehow, it has do do with mms settings but not for mms, for wap. Mamba that was wat you meant, right?
Guys i'm stil lookin 4 a 3G Phone unda 25k. a good 1
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Posted: 2008-07-30 16:21:07
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Guys, apart from tricks and cheats that enable you to browse 4 free, one legal way to cut back on what you spend while browsing wit your phone, esp. in forums like this, go to your browser settings and you'll see, where it is written show images, it's always on, change it to off, then you'll see that whenever you browse, you pay less, cos You've turned images off- this means no graphics, not even smileys wil show, it's not that bad. cheers
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Posted: 2008-07-30 16:36:31
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peasydee: A good 3G phone under N25,000 is the Nokia 6233. Costs about N23,000 only.
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Posted: 2008-07-30 19:52:21
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On 2008-07-30 13:39:27, OluYom wrote:
I tried explaining this a looong time ago on this thread, but we ended up with an argument, and I simply walked away.
Not a good attitude. Make your comments, quote your references. Nobody, however irate, can argue with facts.
WCDMA, while a CDMA standard, is actually what GSM networks use to deliver 3G (as GSM does not have the capacity to deliver broadband services on its own). This is why GSM networks need a new licence in order to offer 3G, while CDMA networks do not. It is also why they (GSM operators) very often need to setup a parallel network to what is already on ground for 2G/2.5G.
Again, while WCDMA is a CDMA standard, it is not compatible with CDMA 2000 on which the CDMA guys deploy their services. Basically, when you are talking of WCDMA, you are talking of UMTS or 3G on GSM networks. I hope I was able to present it as simple as possible.
Actually wCDMA (UMTS) has a GSM core and only uses a CDMA air-interface. It is unfortunate that the name CDMA got linked to the proprietary system that qualcom developed. CDMA (code division multiple access) and TDMA (time division multiple access) actually are the technology by which the different mobile systems transmits their signals.
Unfortunately TDMA is limited to EDGE speed and could not match the EVDO data speeds. So GSM networks had to swith to a CDMA-type (not CDMA) air-interface for more speed.
But in spite of the name CDMA and wCDMA are far apart and are incompatible with each other. As to the issue of licensing, I presume it is possibly greed that led the Europeans to decide to charge humongous sums of money for 3G licenses and Nigeria promptly followed.
It has been argued that one of the archillies tendons of 3G is the high licensing cost leading to high roll out cost and expensive service charges and low patronage by end users. 3G was originally aimed at video calls,(was supposed to be the mobile killer app) but people couldn't be persuaded to pay double for poor quality video. Now 3G concentrates mostly on data. (internet, video conferencing, mobile TV, high speed data)
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Posted: 2008-07-30 21:17:07
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@adrusa: On the subject of licencing, licencing (whether free, cheap or exhorbitant) is necesarry because WCDMA requires a different frequency from 2G/2.5G. Frequency is always regulated, and a GSM licence gives an operator a specific frequency range. This is different from the case of CDMA 2000 networks who require no new frequency and hence no new licence. Of course, I agree that greed is responsible for the exhorbitant 3G licences littering the landscape everywhere.
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Posted: 2008-07-30 21:42:12
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