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On 2006-06-28 00:22:32, Marc_SE wrote:
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On 2006-06-27 23:48:24, hkanji wrote:
I'm astonished SE can release something like this in the hopes of competing with RIM. The battery life and latency alone have me thinking I should toss the M600i. It's no surprie that I heard (from an internal SE guy) that the sales are sluggish - they are well below forecast right now.
We can hope SE is reading this and plans to update the firmware to address these issues. But with slow sales, maybe they will abandon the product. Let's see how much effort they put into it before they arrive at a conclusion.
Sales, as in retail sales of simfree handsets? It's only just come out!
If you mean by networks taking it up, then that may be different. It's uniquely placed *beneath* a potentially high-selling handset (P990i), it in itself the successor of the P910i. It may be that the networks see the P990i as the bigger seller and don't want to muddle consumer choice.
In any respect, the phones only been out for about 2 weeks, how many sales were projected?
The info is highly confidential but the source is very reliable. Apparently sales (I guess either retail or to operators) are well below expectations and not projected to change anytime soon.
Can't say I'm surprised. The phone feels way too raw to have been released.
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Posted: 2006-06-28 00:46:40
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On 2006-06-28 00:22:32, Marc_SE wrote:
Sales, as in retail sales of simfree handsets? It's only just come out!
If you mean by networks taking it up, then that may be different. It's uniquely placed *beneath* a potentially high-selling handset (P990i), it in itself the successor of the P910i. It may be that the networks see the P990i as the bigger seller and don't want to muddle consumer choice.
In any respect, the phones only been out for about 2 weeks, how many sales were projected?
Quite. It isn't even readily available in a number of countries yet either, and I suspect that most UK stock so far is imported.
If operators do take it I would imagine it would be targeted as a business only device anyway. The M600 was never going to be a top selling consumer phone.
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Posted: 2006-06-28 01:10:45
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What the major competitors to the M600i? I only really know of SE phones.
Anyone?
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Posted: 2006-06-28 01:56:56
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On 2006-06-28 01:56:56, ajsfuxor wrote:
What the major competitors to the M600i? I only really know of SE phones.
Anyone?
In terms of the market the M600 is really aimed (ie corporate & push email users) at you've got the Nokia E61, E70, 9500/9300i, Blackberry devices and a collection of Windows Mobile 5 devices.
Whether any of these really compete with the M600 specification wise is another matter since apart from the WM5 devices they lack the flexibility of a touchscreen.
If you don't want WM5 or would like a Symbian based touch screen device with advanced PIM functionality and push email support then the M600 has no competition right now.
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Posted: 2006-06-28 03:34:00
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Whats going on with BB connect?
Thanks
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Posted: 2006-06-28 04:25:00
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On 2006-06-28 01:10:45, SL33PYH34D wrote:
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On 2006-06-28 00:22:32, Marc_SE wrote:
Sales, as in retail sales of simfree handsets? It's only just come out!
If you mean by networks taking it up, then that may be different. It's uniquely placed *beneath* a potentially high-selling handset (P990i), it in itself the successor of the P910i. It may be that the networks see the P990i as the bigger seller and don't want to muddle consumer choice.
In any respect, the phones only been out for about 2 weeks, how many sales were projected?
Quite. It isn't even readily available in a number of countries yet either, and I suspect that most UK stock so far is imported.
If operators do take it I would imagine it would be targeted as a business only device anyway. The M600 was never going to be a top selling consumer phone.
Keep in mind retailers pre-order these things and they end up in the channel well before they end up on shelves. So there is data to work with.
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Posted: 2006-06-28 09:51:12
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On 2006-06-26 20:42:11, Jah wrote:
re: battery life
Well here is my data on battery usage after a 2.5 hrs charge via mains. This is the original battery which had 2 full charge/discharge cycles (used to 20/25%) and lots of short USB charges (which I don't use now).
Standby: 20 hours, with 3G coverage 85% of the time
BT : 11.5 hours (paired to BT headset and used for laptop sync)
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- 15 min calls
- 40 minutes web browsing
- 30 mins ebook reading
- 15 mins listening to AAC/MP3s
- 20 mins other activity (PIM etc)
Battery charge left : 35%
For comparison my Nokia 9500 (2G) would last nearly two days with above usage while my HTC Universal (3G) would not get through the day with the above usage.
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[ This Message was edited by: Jah on 2006-06-26 19:45 ]
Repeated a similar level of usage to above with my second battery and ended-up with 44% battery capacity left. So nearly 10% better woth my second battery. The reason for this difference is that I did the following:
- only charged the battery (from new) when it had 25% charge left
- charged overnight (8 hours) with the M600 switched off
- repeated the above twice in total
I know with Li-Poly batteries 'conditioning' should not be needed but with my first battery (original battery) I did use the USB a lot early in the life of the battery for quick charges (2-5 mins).
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Posted: 2006-06-28 10:00:29
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Trying to find the setting but i cant, how do you set it up so that the phone syncs all calender entries as opposed to just 30 days before and 90 days after today
Thanks
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Posted: 2006-06-28 10:28:20
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@Gabster
See the desktop PC Suite. Select the "+" icon next to the sync icon. Then from the Setting option select:
- Sync Manager>Settings>Calendar Option>Properties
From Properties you can adjust the days before/after
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Posted: 2006-06-28 10:37:04
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So my latest issue is I've run out of storage on the phone. I'm using Exchange ActiveSync. My calendar reports it is consuming 40MB of storage and my tasks say the same. I have no tasks on Exchange and have never typed one into the M600i, so I assume this is a bug. Does the phone even have 80+MB of internal storage?
Storage manager, btw, is a rubbish piece of software. It won't help you actually delete the files that are consuming space. It just shows htem to you.
Any ideas on how I can get rid of the tasks or 40MB worth of junk in the calendar?
This phone is very, very buggy.
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Posted: 2006-06-28 11:22:11
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