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lets put it on that way. according thefact, that an e series fone is focused onother things like k750, the built in music player, equaliser etc arent that bad, compared to the mulitimedia fone, k750.
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Posted: 2007-05-05 19:58:20
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@mib

The K750 has dedicated volume and track advance/retard button (short or long press respectively of the +/- button even when the phone is locked), and a Play/Stop button (again, it works even when the phone keypad is locked). This feature means I can change volume or track and start or stop the music player without unlocking the phone or even unhooking it from my belt (it's very easy to operate by touch alone).

Re: the camera side of things, the AF (with half press focus lock) really defines the base standard for a decent camera phone, as you get not only sharp focus but also macro mode. The AF is what makes the K750 a "real" digital camera, as opposed to just a toy.

The hardware controls for the music player are what makes the K750/W800 into a "real" mp3 player and not just a gimmicky add in.

The camera and walkman are the two most used functions on my K750. Without these features, a phone is pretty useless to me regardless of the application support.

Just on that issue of application support, K750 does have the java platform and despite the inability to task switch between java apps, K750 can switch between a running java app and walkman or making phone calls. Being used to Nokia, you probably don't have a first hand knowledge of just what is possible with java.

But I do because I don't let a little thing like "not a smartphone" stop me pushing my K750 to it's limit in all areas. There are many very useful java apps available that do many of the things you would say only a smartphone would be capable of (for example advanced file management or web browsing). So while the app support of a symbian device is clearly more advanced than the K750, the gulf is not as large as you suppose. Java is no longer just a limited games platform, it's gone far beyond that.

So I'm not as disadvantaged as you think by still choosing the K750 over this N70 I've laid my hands on. K750 still has task switching, apps support and video, it just so happens that in those areas N70 is better, but overall a better phone this does not necessarily make.
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Posted: 2007-05-06 05:41:18
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In keeping with the topic of this thread I thought id share my experience with your all.

I used to be an avid Nokia fan but then I got sick of the poor batterys and build quality and switched to SE. I went through a W800, W810 and a K800 and was pleased with all 3 of them. (except for better video recording on the k800)

Anyway so the N95 then came out and I was like "im sure Nokia are going ot have this bug free and with a decentish battery life"

So i went to the dark side and got myself an N95 . Honestly speaking the only nice thing about is the camera that is it and even then im certain its camera will falter once SEs 5mp offering is out.

After the first week the phone was nice, the battery was pretty good lasting me 2 days sometimes, i dont surf that much so i had it on GSM all the time.

I took me until the 1st week just to getround to putting some videos on there. I love to watch videos on my way to work as well as sometimes a few before I go to bed but what I was about to see dessapointed me.

On my k800 i was able to watch for example a 45mins episode of Heros and the battery would still be full after that. If also be listening to music on the way to work and the battery wouldnt drop at all until on my way home.

The first morning i use my n95 to watch a video the battery drops 1 bar after only 20mins. I thought this was quite pathetic really. 220 hours they say? Well thatgwouldnt be bad if it really was 220 hours. In reality its 45 hours at best (and thats on GSM not 3G)

After the 2nd week I was having to charge twice a day.

Aside from that there are many handsets going around that have this whining noise. N95 owners will know what im talking about. There are also poorly built sliders going around that wobble and give room to wiggle from side to side. Why do Nokia make the shabbiest sliders? For christs sake go and get someone who works for Samsung to spend the day at Nokia and correct them.

There are other problems such as ram related issues but i never surf so this doesnt bother me too much.

In the end what i got was a phone that was so wonderfully packed with features but the fact that the phone was armed with the magic combination of a poor battery and low ram that meant that this phone was never going to live up to the hype.

So what am I using now? Well i should be getting my p990 in a few days and im sure that will hold up better.

[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2007-05-06 13:37 ]
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Posted: 2007-05-06 14:34:15
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WHATEVER you say, SE DOES NOT have better build quality than Nokia, period! They might be the same, but SE is NOT better at build quality. I've owned 2 SE and currently own a N71. N71 is rock solid, ROCK!
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Posted: 2007-05-06 15:01:56
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poor batt? did u ever gave a try for e50 for example?
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Posted: 2007-05-06 15:04:14
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@bavlondon2,
I don't know....
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Posted: 2007-05-06 15:28:10
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I have to say the new Nokia N95 is a very impressive phone.
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Posted: 2007-05-07 01:21:20
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Totally agree QVGA, Nokia beats SE is durablity, firmware stability and reliability.

Most SE phones are lacking straight out of the box, that's why there are a pile of firmware releases, consumers taking it up unto themselves to fix this and that and modify their phones. Motorola and Sony Ericsson in my experience have the most faulty phones out on the market and I am including WSOD as a fault.

The W900i was once a flagship phone of the company and the built quality isnt that great. The continuous line around the housing is too wide so tiny specs of dirt are visible inside the line. Not even Nokia phones with changeable faceplates gather as much dirt.

I for one am more than a little tired of SE who are milking the same designs and features. Most of their phones look like they are targetting kids instead of adults.


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Posted: 2007-05-07 01:30:44
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SEMC has the best lineup.
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Posted: 2007-05-07 02:20:12
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funny, most Nokia users I know seem to complain about their Nokia's the same way you complain about your W900?

Or how about jump on a Nokia forum and see the user's there bitching about firmware faults? It seems to me, that when someone has a firmware fault with their phone, they suddenly assume that all phones of that manufacturer have the same problem. I've never had WSOD problems on my any of my SE phones. And I've had quite a few.

All manufacturers have persistant problems getting firmware right, it is in no way exclusive to SE or Motorola. The fact is with any phone you need to regularly update the firmware using the manufacturers FREE service. Until manufacturers start testing firmware properly before release this will continue to be a problem.

It's not an SE problem, it's a problem generic to the industry.

As to you saying most SE phones are lacking out of the box, and not reliable, that's gotta be a joke? I've bought several SE phones "out of the box" myself, and not a single one had any kind of firmware or reliability problem. I still own them all to this day and they are all in perfect working order.

The only time any of my SE phones have thrown a WSOD is when they've been dropped from a metre or more onto concrete (something I try and avoid but shit happens). Remove the battery and reinsert and the phone is right again.


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Posted: 2007-05-07 02:31:30
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