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Posted: 2010-07-11 13:10:24
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yeah yawn!!!!
the phone has so much potential which has not been utlised!!!
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Posted: 2010-07-11 18:29:05
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SE will loose SERIOUS market share as soon as Nokia releases the N8-00. The Satio is totally out of its league when compared to this new 12mp camera phone.
Take it from me, coming from a Nokia N82 .. Nokia, like SE, have been hurting .. BUT Nokia knows when they sell a "flagship phone" they need to ensure their customers stay loyal - my N82 had incurred 5 big FW releases until a very stable robust FW was finally attained.. something that the SE Satio can not say.
My 2 cents - if SE doesn't release a FW (with bug fixes & enhancements) by August 24, I'm dumping SE for good and going back to Nokia .. My N82 was rock solid totally free of bugs and took excellent pictures ..
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Posted: 2010-07-12 00:01:49
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On 2010-07-11 12:48:33, max_wedge wrote:
On 2010-07-11 12:39:30, larry 68 wrote:
I personnaly dont see a point in arguing about what SE could or couldnt do, what they could or couldnt give above what came on release . The basic fact is this WAS a flagship phone and should be given support, like other phones , end of story.
If SE plan to sell a handset and then walk away, going a different route to other manufacturers , then its simple, lets move to someone else. I know I will.
What they did do, central to the whole argument, is design an excellent phone. The latest firmware is stable and does all the things that the handset was claimed to do when you bought it. If you don't like it buy another phone, otherwise suck it up and enjoy the Satio for what it is: a typical SE handset with good ergonomics, elegant design and a raft of high end features.
You don't buy a phone based on what future firmware updates may or may not provide. You buy it for what it can do at the time of purchase. Firmware upgrades are designed to manage bugs that become evident in the early life of the handset, not to keep updating the phone's feature's ad infinitum.
huh? I bought into this flagship phone because I wanted an accurate, efficient phone that could do basic things awesomely and then some. I do agree that it's hardware is very well designed but the software is just plain shiiiiiiit. I paid a premium price for clear conversations (failed), actually every call I make isn't clear even with full reception. I paid a premium for a phone that won't allow me to call or end calls, end my calls for no reason, and not restart my phone for me out of the blue.
I can name numberous issues with the phone but you can check the petition for all of those flaws.
Simply put, Satio was pushed out to the market too fast (hello Christmas). It could've been a great phone but it was a flawed product at first launch, it was a flawed product after its first update and second update and third update.
What I want is for SE to make things right, I don't even care about apps anymore because I know it is unrealistic to want great apps like the iphone has but it IS realistic to give us some of the things we asked for.
SE isn't even giving us a straight answer if there is even going to be an update or not, it is just hush hush for them. Some may argue that SE gave us a decent product and we don't NEED any more updates but something that is just WRONG about this picture is that SE is being completely quiet and not communicating with us, even on their own feedback forum where they promise that people are listening and to hold on for future announcements. WTF?
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Posted: 2010-07-12 08:23:34
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i really dont know why kinetic scrolling is bugging you as i used it in the 5230 and it was super. How the hell can you search the 1500 media on the phone with no kinetic scrolling? sometimes i stop browsing and the song i am looking for is right off the screen. Dragging the bar a bit (when 1500files are browsed) makes it jump about 10-20 songs.. the 5230 has nice kinetic scrolling and a sidebar, that works fine. So use the bar if you dont like the scrolling. Bar for big jumps - then with kinetic simply "fine search" up/down 5-10 songs.. what can be more simple?
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Posted: 2010-07-12 10:58:58
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I called the SE USA help desk and spoke to a customer service rep, and he was very knowledgeable. He said that he confirms there
WILL be a Satio firmware release after R2AK006 released in mid to late August. He told me to hold tight, they understand the issues and are working on releasing an updated firmware.
[ This Message was edited by: henryblank on 2010-07-12 22:41 ]
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Posted: 2010-07-12 22:51:38
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On 2010-07-12 22:51:38, henryblank wrote:
I called the SE USA help desk and spoke to a customer service rep, and he was very knowledgeable. He said that he confirms there WILL be a Satio firmware release after R2AK006 released in mid to late August. He told me to hold tight, they understand the issues and are working on releasing a firmware to fix the issues.
THIS IS A BIG NEWS!!! Thx.
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Posted: 2010-07-12 23:20:59
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On 2010-07-12 22:51:38, henryblank wrote:
I called the SE USA help desk and spoke to a customer service rep, and he was very knowledgeable. He said that he confirms there
WILL be a Satio firmware release after R2AK006 released in mid to late August. He told me to hold tight, they understand the issues and are working on releasing an updated firmware.
[ This Message was edited by: henryblank on 2010-07-12 22:41 ]
Don't get your hopes up guys, I won't believe it until I see it as an SE PR announcement or from the major tech news sites like gizmodo, engadget, etc...
Remember the Malaysia announcement that we'd have an update by August? then everybody celebrated and sighed relief for a few days and SE formally shut us down with "There will be NO updates in August" now suddenly there are updates in August.
I have a feeling the internal communications of SE is just as bad as the communication they have with their consumers.
You guys ever curious why they are so quiet on the SE feedback forums? The only reason people are quiet is because they have nothing to share.
big FAIL.
sorry to be a negative nancy but I'm just calling it as I see it and I'm not getting BS'd by SE anymore.
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Posted: 2010-07-12 23:59:28
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On 2010-07-12 00:01:49, henryblank wrote:
SE will loose SERIOUS market share as soon as Nokia releases the N8-00. The Satio is totally out of its league when compared to this new 12mp camera phone.
Take it from me, coming from a Nokia N82 .. Nokia, like SE, have been hurting .. BUT Nokia knows when they sell a "flagship phone" they need to ensure their customers stay loyal - my N82 had incurred 5 big FW releases until a very stable robust FW was finally attained.. something that the SE Satio can not say.
My 2 cents - if SE doesn't release a FW (with bug fixes & enhancements) by August 24, I'm dumping SE for good and going back to Nokia .. My N82 was rock solid totally free of bugs and took excellent pictures ..
My previous primary phone is a N82, still the best camera phone ever made, stable, excellent build, more camera function than any SE phone even more than the K800i.
The current Satio's interface simply suck, that bloody music player pops up by itself time after time.
All these small bugs can be fixed, yet they never do it. I am looking to get N8-00 as soon as i can get them via good channels!
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Posted: 2010-07-13 01:14:38
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Heres my personal update for the Satio:
Sometimes I'm locked out of my own voicemail and it asks me to enter my password when I never set one up. If I'm lucky, I can access my voicemail and actually listen to messages!
This never happened with my older phones on the same account.
Oh and when I'm not allowed to make calls sometimes. It literally says call not allowed.
wow SE...just wow...
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Posted: 2010-07-13 07:07:03
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