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on the ISO-is-not-important argument:

SILLY!

ask a journalist:



mobile phones are not mainly intended for glamour and photo contest shots, where quality is the top priority. there are many instances when the overall detail of the image captured is what matters. a smart smartphone user does not just use the camera of his phone, hopping from one forum thread to another, to compare and brag about the quality of images his smartphone camera takes.

if you witness a crime in dark alleys or corners of the street, your smartphone becomes a very useful tool to at least capture some clues to help identify the criminals.

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Posted: 2014-09-07 15:48:58
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Sony ME (UAE) has announced the price and the availability of Z3 and other accessories (except SW3)

Availability is in October

It's shocking to know that in UAE, Z3 will cost AED 3349 which is almost BHD 345 in my country, and in US this mean $910 !!!

The regular launch price we had in the area for previous flagships was BHD 279 which equals USD 740

It's just over priced, but I have a feeling that SW3 will be included in this price.

EDIT: the SW3 will not be available in ME, And the phone will be Z3 dual (double sim) not the standard one

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Posted: 2014-09-07 17:00:18
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Wow I can't believe it.

You guys say that OIS is just a gadget worse than digital stabilization, and then you tell how ridiculously high ISO is useful

First of all having hardware help for camera is ALWAYS useful, no matter if the phone will later use digital stabilization as addition or not. But high ISO only have sense if camera sensor is big enough. You can't recieve an useful 12800 ISO image form a sensor as small as the one in Z3. The journalist is talking about a professional DSLR camera where you have 10x bigger sensor, that can handle such a high ISO...
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Posted: 2014-09-07 18:16:22
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let the trollololing begin ...


anyway, more nice pictures on eprice

these are 100% crops of photos taken at sony's IFA booth:
(i fully zoomed the images in and took a screenshot of the visible fully zoomed in portions, mostly near the center)
these are crops of 8MP presumably oversampled photos, though.
i really hope z3 does a better job outdoors. the xperias are notorious for losing details in outdoor shots because they're too bright





nicely smooth and clean







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Posted: 2014-09-07 19:20:59
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I never meant to say that the OIS is completely useless, because the OIS will be very useful when you use a slow shutter speed.
But the problem is the most phones with 2 axis OIS does not work too well, and according to DPReview even the mighty 1020 with 3 axis OIS is still hit and miss at least in auto setting.
Here's what DPReview says when they do a camera comparison between 1020, S4 Zoom, G2 and Z1.
"despite optical image stabilization systems on the Nokia, LG and Samsung, on the verge of being too slow for hand-held shooting. We shot a series of images with each phone and only found one or two really sharp ones from each device when we sifted through the results on our computer screen"
"at a shutter speed of 1/9th second it is virtually impossible to capture an image that looks sharp at a 100% magnification, despite the 1020's fairly efficient optical image stabilization."

There is no doubt when it comes to still shots the Pureview with their Advance manual setting and 3 axis OIS is the best camera on any smartphones.
But you have to realize most of us would just point and shot with the auto setting.

And in low light Sony has a few tricks from using high ISO or Multi frame noise reduction like Anti Motion Blur and Hand Held Twilight.
The result is far from perfect but still acceptable and usable, sometimes even better than other phones with 2 axis OIS.


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Posted: 2014-09-07 20:53:31
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Why don't u comment on the nice quality pictures of Z3 instead of bashing and talking negatively about it when there's a little negative about the camera? All I see is negative when it comes to Xperia from u. Those Z3 pictures are nice but u keep your mouth shut but when there's a little bit negativity on the Xperia Z3 camera u always condemn it. Oops I forgot, You're a SONY hater so u only talk negative about it

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Posted: 2014-09-08 01:18:36
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@miromiromi

Good work there!
The crops look absolutely fantastic

Can't wait for more outdoor shots.

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Posted: 2014-09-08 06:10:04
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I was rather making fun of you guys, for saying things like "Whatever, OIS not so important. But hey, 12800 ISO is very useful" that's all. As for Z3 photos, so far there is improvement (can't really say more from the few shots I've seen), but need more photos, specially outdoors.
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Posted: 2014-09-08 18:42:49
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I couldn't find any video demonstrating the front facing speakers, or even comparing..

Anyone more luck?
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Posted: 2014-09-08 19:32:45
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You're damn right I also could not find any Z3 speakers test or comparison.
But if I'm not mistaken Xperia Z2 Tablet using the same speakers driver as the Z2.
NXP TFA9890 That is actually pretty good, It can deliver 7.2 W peak output power into an 8 Ω speaker at a supply voltage of 3.6 V. The internal boost converter raises the supply voltage to 9.5 V, providing ample headroom for major improvements in sound quality.

So there is a possibility that the Z3 and Z3 Compact tablet is using the same speaker driver and if what i say is true thiis video might give you an idea how well the speakers in Z3.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sghGxIIHJ0U
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Posted: 2014-09-08 20:04:04
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