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hi,
i think one should take moore's comments with a pinch of salt.
true, that he's bringing to light a lot of problems that plague the world today i.e bush/gulf war2/gun control etc.
but i don't know if he's the right one to dish out the advice.
he should be commended for the fact that if it weren't for him and his documentaries, a lot of truths would never have come up for the whole world to see.
but his first premise is to shock people, yeah? tell them how bad the president is.. but i don't know if he can tell people what they should do about it.
i mean americans on the whole are smart, and once u give them the facts, they can decide... and this is why democracy is so good.. that u can decide and kick the person who u don't want in office.
in a democracy and a free press, u know who's lying a lot and who's lying less ( i'm not naive enough to believe that there are no people out there not lying)har!
cos like in india, when they had elections, the guys who lied more got booted out.. and the next government comes in and starts lying until the same fate bites them in the ass.
as kennedy said "you can fool some of the people all of the time;
all of the people some of the time;
but never all the people all the time"
i guess democracy really helps... and i do agree with u guys that north korea and zimbabwe need to be dealt with the same way. but one more country that everyone seems to forget is myanmar.(burma).
there u have aung san syu ki (forgive me for spelling) who's really fighting for democracy. and we as outsiders need to help people who're fighting for democracy and for human rights and freedom.
u don't need to send them guns or troops. they need the support of the rest of the world behind them.
that's it.. support.
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Posted: 2004-07-14 17:02:24
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There used to be a time when all that was necessary was for us to send a gunboat to one of these countries and everything could be sorted out before breakfast. I think Britain actually has the world record for the shortest war, with Zanzibar in the nineteenth century, which lasted approximately fifteen minutes.
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Posted: 2004-07-14 17:28:20
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@scotsboy
that was before all these hi tech laser guided bombs and nuclear proliferators dude..
nowadays 15 mins is more than sufficient to completely destroy a country like zanzibar.
it isn't the same... definitely not!
yeah.. scary thing is, nobody seems to be worried.
btw have u read clash of civilizations by samuel huntington.??
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Posted: 2004-07-14 20:00:11
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@plasmadog
I haven't, but a very good book I can recommend to you is 'On War' by Carl von Clausewitz. It examines the concept of 'total war', quite interesting when one considers it was written in the aftermath of the Napoleonic Wars and it is still very relevant to modern wars.
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Posted: 2004-07-14 20:57:31
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Yes, that is a good book indeed!!!
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Posted: 2004-07-15 06:21:53
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Posted: 2004-07-15 08:55:25
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THIS IS HOW THE AMERICAN AIR FORCE KILLS INNOCENT CIVILIANS IN IRAQ
The pilot says to command "I've got numerous individuals on the road you want me to take those out" gets reply "Take them out" after bombing them says "oh dude"
CLICK HEREWindows Media Player Format
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Posted: 2004-07-17 09:46:06
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The audio on that clip seems a little TOO clear.... I do wonder about it's authenticity.
If it does happen to be 100% authentic, then it's not really a surprise that so many people have been against this war, and why the US is still having so many problems.
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Posted: 2004-07-17 17:35:08
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I think Scotland will win the golf war.
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Posted: 2004-07-17 17:41:43
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We have oil, we had best watch out!
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Posted: 2004-07-17 18:26:39
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