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carkitter Posts: > 500

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On 2005-07-14 10:20:37, Jim wrote:
...Yeah molecules . Didn't you read my previous post ?

Molecules are made up of Elements which are collections of atoms, which are made up of smaller parts (yet another theory). Who created these?
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Denying evolution is denying genetic, which is impossible.

Genetics and Creation are not mutually exclusive. I believe God makes the decisions in the womb though, and the Bible confirms it.
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As I said earlier, Evolution is promoted by those who don't want to acknowledge the existence of God...

...And the contrary goes the same.

No, I don't agree. I was taught Evolution at school and had no problem with it. I later became a Christian and found that Creation and Evolution clash in several areas. I have seen video's by Christian Apologists who have arguments against Evolution. I have weighed up the evidence for both sides and decided that Creation is the most reasonable. That's my opinion, you don't have to agree. I'll still like you But in a debate such as this I will try to refute what I see as errors.
I hope you will do the same.
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Posted: 2005-07-14 14:09:06
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methylated_spirit Posts: > 500

Found this:

http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm348793.html

Worth a read.
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Posted: 2005-07-14 14:12:30
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carkitter Posts: > 500

Mmm... quite good but it doesn't really back up its assertions in detail.

#9, that bit about rock strata and the flood - I've seen an in depth Christian documentary on that subject which was quite convincing.

@Jim, I hope I don't appear harsh, I don't mean to be, I'm just passionate about this subject.

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Posted: 2005-07-14 14:21:56
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Jim Posts: > 500

Quote:Molecules are made up of Elements which are collections of atoms, which are made up of smaller parts (yet another theory). Who created these?

Yes, I agree but we can go deaper than quarks now with technology, I think that we aren't advanced enough to understand or go even deeper but seeing this way I accept the fact that something happened (big bang) from what or who, I don't know but, yeah, it can be God or it can be something else that we don't/can't understand. It's just the fact that only humans where created that I don't approve.

From the link I quote this from a comment

Quote:Creationism has no theory, no facts and no proof. Until a "third way" comes along I guess we'll all be kept in the dark on this one

But some other's comments/points of the author are based on little knowledge of genetics.

And why on different parts of the world are we different (African, Asian and so on ) while we came all from one person (don't have any knowledge of the Bible, so sorry if it's wrong) ?

Edit: Oh yeah, another example of "evolution" (adpatation which can ends in an evolution ) is the virus/bacteria, each year it adapts to new medicat ion beeing stronger. Look at the Aids virus, 1 month a go a new type emerged, bacteria are the prime example of evolution, they are the first also
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[ This Message was edited by: Jim on 2005-07-14 13:54 ]
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Posted: 2005-07-14 14:44:37
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JK Posts: > 500

I found a good link...

http://www.biblelife.org/evolution.htm

pls read mr jim...
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Posted: 2005-07-14 14:58:30
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carkitter Posts: > 500

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On 2005-07-14 14:44:37, Jim wrote:
...And why on different parts of the world are we different (African, Asian and so on ) while we came all from one person (don't have any knowledge of the Bible, so sorry if it's wrong) ?

See Genesis 11: 1-9, The account of the Tower of Babel. Perhaps a change of skin colour went along with the change of languages? Certainly it's not impossible for people to adapt a dark suntan over 4000 years.
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Edit: Oh yeah, another example of "evolution" (adpatation which can ends in an evolution ) is the virus/bacteria, each year it adapts to new medicat ion beeing stronger. Look at the Aids virus, 1 month a go a new type emerged, bacteria are the prime example of evolution, they are the first also

Hmm... good point, I'm momentarily stumped!
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Posted: 2005-07-14 15:06:40
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goldenface Posts: > 500

The science of genetics is used to catch criminals, one day it may be used by the Police to help you. This same science has proven that Humans and primates are very closely related genetically. I don't have a problem with this as it is a simple, plain fact. My late Parents didn't live in a zoo either. The Wolf and a Labrador Retriever are related, surely you can see that! One didn't evolve from the other, they both came from a common ancestor and evolved differently. Humans can speak. Apes also communicate. This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2005-07-14 15:12:51
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Jim Posts: > 500

Ah, I don't have a Bible Would love to read the part you posted but I can't

Btw I recommend to read after pyro's comments in the link from meths
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Posted: 2005-07-14 15:13:15
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Jim Posts: > 500

@786: I started to read the link you posted until I saw this

Quote:If natural selection were true Eskimos would have fur to keep warm, but they don't. They are just as hairless and everyone else. If natural selection were true humans in the tropics would have silver, reflective skin to help them keep cool, but they don't. They have black skin, just the opposite of what the theory of natural selection would predict. If natural selection were true humans at northern latitudes should have black skin, but they have white skin instead. The theory of natural selection is wrong because it cannot create something in the DNA that wasn't there in the beginning.

This prove that the author has very very very little knowledge of biology and therefore doesn't need my attention anymore. Sorry.
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Posted: 2005-07-14 15:24:44
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goldenface Posts: > 500

@carkitter. You have just proved the theory. Over thousands of years humans did adapt to changes in temperature as they migrated across the globe. If they had not 'adapted' the scandinavian population would surely look very different today would they not? This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2005-07-14 15:25:45
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