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^ err... yes.. the 808 can make your photos look as saturated as you want
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Posted: 2013-11-21 05:52:20
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awesome indeed!
The two best camera-phones ever:
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Posted: 2013-11-21 19:55:05
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emerson_shei Posts: > 500
Nokia 808 PureView: twenty-four amazing results
pureviewclub.com/2013/19465
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Posted: 2013-12-03 05:55:54
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emerson_shei Posts: > 500
Super Cameraphones Shootout: 808 PureView Vs 1020 PureView Vs Xperia Z1 Vs NSeries N8
http://www.allaboutsymbian.co[....]tphone_camera_shootout_the.php
Spoiler: The Winner Is... 808 PureView
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Posted: 2013-12-07 03:40:45
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The 808 is indeed still king of the camera phones - I'm not at all disputing that point... But I'll have to say that I've noticed a trend in all of these reviews that seems everyone is overlooking a very BIG factor - Ease of use. We here (on forums) don't mind taking six photos of the same thing to get the best one..... We don't mind carrying three phones with us (on occasion) to do "test shots"..... We're not ever going to think a fellow member is crazy for putting a phone on a tripod.... BUT the fact is, your average consumer will NEVER do this stuff & that's who companies like to sway toward their product. As the old adage goes - "the best camera is the one you have with you." Which brings me to my point....
In this article, the author says;
"Physics always wins out in the end when light levels are low, with the Nokia 808 producing the purest blocks of colour, especially in the blue on the sign, plus very clear lettering. The 1020 is hampered by not being able to match the 8MP resolution of the other phone cameras"
I own both of these phones and have to disagree... as a matter of fact, I think this statement couldn't be any further from the truth. Although the 808 sensor is larger, it can not compete in low light with the 1020 unless you get a tripod involved. SIMPLE AS THAT... and what good is that if you are joe average consumer just wanting to snap a quick shot and not have to do 3min's of set up to take a picture.... not to mention that the image will likely NEVER be printed, NEVER be used as a billboard, LIKELY not be used as wallpaper on your 7136x5360 monitor and might not even make it to your social media page..... as a matter of fact, I'm guessing there's probably only a 50/50 chance it gets resized, compressed and sent as an MMS.
Having said that, I agree that the finite image detail is something worth looking at but I don't think you can look at four sets of images and rate one set highest because it has the best color, the next because it has the most detail, another because it has choses a specific shutter speed to accomplish the same task. If you don't own any of these phones and you were looking to buy one so you could post the best images to your social media page or email to a friend, my suggestion would be to buy a 1020. The gain in IQ you get from an 808 (IMO) does NOT outweigh the convenience and manual control you get from the 1020 not to mention that gap will likely get even smaller once the black update is released. I challenge anyone to go back to that post and show someone all four images on your PC sized to about 600x800 (good web size) and tell me which photos they choose.
I did so with 3 different people and here is how they ranked those images. I simple had them score the images from 4-1 (four being best) to add up a final score and the 1020 came out on top. Visually, my "subjects" chose the 1020 3 out of 4 times. You can blame this on people liking the oversaturated look or just guessing but the fact is the people who chose these image are NOT techie people and two of them have no idea what aperture or ISO even mean!! lol
averaged results went like this;
Test 1 - 1020, Z1, 808, N8
Test 2 - 1020, 808, Z1, N8
Test 3 - 1020, Z1, 808, N8
Test 4 - 808, 1020, N8, Z1
1020 - 15 points
808 - 11 points
Z1 - 9 points
N8 - 5 points
I realize that my "test" is very unscientific but keep in mind I just did it for "visual appeal" results and not to determine technical capability. So if you are simply trying to produce the "best" image, my recommendation would be to buy a phone you like the size, features or specs for and brush up on your photo skills. Im betting MOST any member of this forum could produce "better" photos with an N8 than the "average" person could with the 808 or 1020.
Just some food for thought.
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Posted: 2013-12-07 16:16:51
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^ That's why the iPhone 5s is considered by many as one of the best camera phones ever produced.. the results are not the best but they are extremely consistent and "good enough" for 99% of the users out there. Its also extremely easy to use.. there are hardly any manual controls at all, and you still get nice looking photographs.
The new dual LED flash that they have on there can't quite compete with the xenon units .. but yet again its more than enough for most people.
So I agree.. the 808's camera is indeed harder to use.. its kind of like shooting with a DSLR and a p&s camera, the DSLR will give you better results but you have to spent more time on achieving that. The big difference being that the difference b/w the 808 and the 1020 in terms of final result is much, much smaller that b/w a dslr and a random point and shoot.
Personally.. I like the challenge the 808 presents when it comes to photography. It's camera has a very distinct character that you need to learn how to deal with. I enjoy it, but like you said... I am the minority.
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Posted: 2013-12-07 19:05:55
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Don't get me wrong... you won't catch me getting rid of my 808 any time soon. I love the results you can pull from the 808 and it will ALWAYS come out with me on the weekends... But for day to day use, I'm quite happy with my 1020 and super excited to see what black does for it's I/Q.
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Posted: 2013-12-08 04:32:56
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I think that the 1020 is more than enough and its amazing how much they've improved the ease of use from the 808 in only about a year.
Black will bring it much closer to the 808 in daylight I think.. we will have to wait and see but from what I can see from the 1520.. that will be the case. The jpeg processing on the 1520 screams Symbian, which is a good thing.
I am hoping that they can improve the speed of the 1020 camera with the Black update ..or any update for that matter.. its a bit slow..
Can't wait to see what they have planned for MWC this year.. hopefully something based on Snap 805
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Posted: 2013-12-09 18:31:56
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yeah, horribly slow between shots, up to 4 seconds sometimes. I got so frustrated on a recent trip to USA, ended up taking most of the photos with my 808 instead.
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Posted: 2013-12-12 02:12:27
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Love how the 808 occupies the first places:
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/index.php?toplist=yes
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Posted: 2013-12-16 11:46:28
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