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not sure if this was discussed at some point a long, long time ago.. but i thought this was interesting..
The "GOD" phone to be is code named Honami, which is slated to be the best camera phone on the market (arguably even with nokia pureview). I came across this a bit ago..
http://www.dailycameranews.co[....]th-honami-jpeg-engine-support/
Sony's new "HONAMI" jpeg engine? A connection perhaps?
EDIT: ok after poking around a bit more.. seems that's kinda old news, but still interesting i think! haha.. apparently the whole jpeg engine project is called Honami.. if that's the case, then I'm looking forward to seeing pictures samples!
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-06-03 23:20 ]
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Posted: 2013-06-04 00:17:16
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After googling it, a number of camera rumour sites mention a "honami jpeg engine", and say it should be used on the future NEX models.
It looks like i do not need to worry about xperia A saturated colors, the honami jpeg engine will be more than on par with the hardware
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Posted: 2013-06-04 01:29:40
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On 2013-06-03 18:18:03, Shotokan81 wrote:
@Razec:
IBIS for In Body Image Stabiliser? Not sure how it is different or better than Optical Steadyshot.
Stabilisation would be good and is wanted, but stabilisation does not help with moving subject like the smallest of our family members you do not want to take with a flash. So still hoping for a camera+sensor capturing a max of light along with the stabilisation
PDAF for Phase Detection Auto Focus? I have never used a camera with it. It sounds like it makes autofocus fast, which is surely something that would be great (with ability to focus quickly indoor)
IBIS is the counterpart of OSS (optical steady shot, or IS in canon's terms, or VR in nikon's ) IBIS enables all lenses to be stabilized regardless of age and size, while OSS are only for specific models, a camera with no IBIS has to rely on Stabilized lens to enable Image stabilized pictures. for example any Interchangeable lenses with larger aperture than 2.8 does not have OSS/IS/VR, while IBIS cameras like the Sony A-mount or the Olympus EM5 will stabilize any lenses including the "fast" ones.
PDAF is used on DSLRs and some Mirrorless cameras, and yes it's a fast AF technology used especially for moving subjects even at lowlight, however there were different implementations of PDAF, on DSLRs the PDAF sensors are special chips built inside the body in which some portion of the light coming from the lens is reflected through the DSLR mirror, while on mirrorless cameras, the PDAF sensor is built inside the image sensor itself. you can try any DSLR or at least a mirrorless camera like the Nikon 1 series so you can appreciate the awesomeness of AF technology.
Not sure about honami jpeg engine, but NEX7's JPEG engine is one of the best JPEG processing I've seen so far in the case of Sony. that news is SR2 at SAR
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-06-04 00:35 ]
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Posted: 2013-06-04 01:31:21
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Thanks, great insight.
Then hope for a fast lens, ibis and pdaf!
For the jpeg engine the below says SR3
http://www.sonyalpharumors.co[....]veloped-for-alpha-and-nex-too/
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Posted: 2013-06-04 02:22:36
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I'm not sure if the realisation of the 'honami jpeg engine' being used across the Sony SLRs is good for honami or bad for SLRs.
On one hand it will stop the complaints round here that Sony should get their camera department to build the jpeg compression for the phones (which would be good or the phones),
BUT named the 'honami project engine' makes me feel it's actually the smartphone jpeg compression algorithms being passed on to the camera department, which is terrible news for Sony DSLRs if they end up with some of the recent oversharpening, weird saturation and blown pinks.
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Posted: 2013-06-04 02:41:28
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Ricky D, what sort of logic did you come up with to think the bad (and OLD) JPEG algorithms of recent Xperia would spread to the DSLR?
We know that Sony is trying to improve their JPEG performance with a new algorithm engine (and it appears this is a company-wide effort), which would mean improved JPEG performance for the upcoming Xperias. If Sony is really bringing this new improved JPEG engine to DSLRs/NEX as well as Honami, this would mean improved performance for ALL of Sony's imaging products. I don't know how you would reach the conclusion that the old crappy engine would be brought back to the NEX/Alpha line.
Edit: Off topic but will Sony announce new VAIO at Computex?
[ This Message was edited by: sighduck on 2013-06-04 03:16 ]
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Posted: 2013-06-04 04:10:00
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Sony never shows up at Computex if memory serves me right
though I can understand the curiosity because of the Duo 13.
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Posted: 2013-06-04 04:30:16
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@sighduck
The logic is that if it's the same teams who've done the previous jpeg algorithms for smartphones then we can see from history that they aren't world beaters in this field. If the teams that wrote the algorithms are from the camera dept then that's a different case, but the name of the project sugsests it was led by the smartphone guys.
I'm not saying they wouldn't be an improvement for smartphones but may be a step down for DSLRs.
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Posted: 2013-06-04 04:50:23
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On 2013-06-04 04:50:23, Ricky D wrote:
@sighduck
The logic is that if it's the same teams who've done the previous jpeg algorithms for smartphones then we can see from history that they aren't world beaters in this field. If the teams that wrote the algorithms are from the camera dept then that's a different case, but the name of the project sugsests it was led by the smartphone guys.
I'm not saying they wouldn't be an improvement for smartphones but may be a step down for DSLRs.
who told u that honami code name for jpeg compression came frm the honami phone & the team developing it ???
Ramu has many times mentioned that new jpeg compression for honami is being developed by the CyberShot dept. guys not the mobile department!!!
That's why there z no threat to sony dedicated cameras
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Posted: 2013-06-04 05:33:31
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On 2013-06-04 05:33:31, AbhiD999 wrote:
who told u that honami code name for jpeg compression came frm the honami phone & the team developing it ???
Ramu has many times mentioned that new jpeg compression for honami is being developed by the CyberShot dept. guys not the mobile department!!!
That's why there z no threat to sony dedicated cameras
Chill out man. I'm just saying it how I see it and trying to interpret the various sources. No offense to randomuser, he is doing a great job of aggregating rumours and keeping on top of it all, but he isn't always 100% accurate in his info. I can only think of one or two who have been here for many years who have a very high accuracy on leaks.
Anyway, the rumour in the link posted above by Shotokan81 distinctly names "honami smartphone project" as the source of the new algorithms. I'm not trying to say for certain it's the smartphone guys or the camera guys who have written it, but the name of the project suggests smartphone and there doesn't seem to be evidence (other than talk) to show otherwise.
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Posted: 2013-06-04 06:00:45
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