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josephnero Posts: > 500

Yeah but new models have much bigger battery
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Posted: 2018-01-09 19:30:42
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hgautam Posts: > 500


On 2018-01-09 19:25:45, Moe87 wrote:
XA2 U is 2mm shorter than 2017



Another very valid point... Assuming the display size remains same say 5.5 inch and the screen ratio also remains same 16:9, and the large bezels gets reduced by say 10mm in height, then the first component to get sacrificed is the bettery until and unless the thickness is increased....

Because of this phones with 18:9 screen have advantage that the phones dimensions don't reduce when reducing the bezels...
[ This Message was edited by: hgautam on 2018-01-09 18:39 ]

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Posted: 2018-01-09 19:34:42
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hgautam Posts: > 500


On 2018-01-09 19:25:45, Moe87 wrote:

@hgautam loop design made phones thicker.
[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-01-09 18:34 ]



Completely agree, but Lonewolf223 issues seems to be that other phones have even larger batteries and yet still slimmer even after taking the loop design in consideration.

Like the example he gave lenovo k8 note has 4000 mAh battery at 8.5 mm thickness... Making a k8note in loop surface design will make it 9.x mm thick. Compared with XA it still has smaller battery... That was all I was trying to explain, some thing is different with sony what exactly I don't know. But if it means a safer phone, I am fine with that.
[ This Message was edited by: hgautam on 2018-01-09 19:07 ]

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Posted: 2018-01-09 20:01:21
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Moe87 Posts: > 500

https://sumahoinfo.com/2018-x[....]ill-remain-xz1-xz2-xz1-premium

Hey XJ, what can you tell us about this?



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Posted: 2018-01-10 00:29:35
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rizzamarv Posts: 132

Haven't posted in forever. Reason is have been bored with phones and specifically Sony's. Am still running around with a battered Z5 because I keep waiting and waiting for the next best thing. I am already prepared to be dissappointed at MWC again and would switch if they don't come up with a proper flagship, problem is I don't like any other manufacturers phones either...

My bet is Premium will have a screen body ratio of 75 in a best case scenario... if they manage manage to fit in a massive battery (my main desire) I might be swayed if no other manufacturer brings something amazing which i guess they won't... not interested in camera's on phones so don't care about 1, 2 or 5

Fingers crossed their flagships are proper premium build, massive battery and around 75% screen body ratio. If not might just get a huawei, haha


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Posted: 2018-01-10 01:46:47
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ADIDA Posts: > 500

The design changes:
Dual Rear Camera and FPS like Mate 10 Pro
The angles are not bipolar
Yes, Thick, but design is Changed
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Posted: 2018-01-10 02:36:20
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Lonewolf223 Posts: 361

I am talking about the reason why sony is going down in sales.
Like someone said sony phones started having lesser battery from z5.
And this is going to be important in sales.
Also sony should put ois in its back cam whether it is needed or not. Even though common people dont know what ois is, if its in the spec sheet then it's a bonus. And i know that the new xa phones are comfortable to hold etc etc.. But still look from the eyes of a common consumer and he sees these drawbacks,hey dont care about sensor size. Actually right now sony uses the largest sensor in the business 1/2.3 but nobody even knows that. The competition is mostly using 1/2.5 & 1/2.6 but they have wider aperture and they are marketing it.Sony should also narrow down the aperture.

The reason sony fails to make huge profit margins is because it is a conservative company.
Just look at samsung.
In s6 they dropped sd slot and due to fan outrage they where forced to put it back in s7.

Sony has dropped the double tap to wake now, lets see what happens.
[ This Message was edited by: Lonewolf223 on 2018-01-10 06:16 ]

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Posted: 2018-01-10 03:25:05
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yuunanase Posts: 291



The reason sony fails to make huge profit margins is because it is a conservative company.
Just look at samsung.
In s6 they dropped sd slot and due to fan outrage they where forced to put it back in s7.

Sony has dropped the double tap to wake now, lets see what happens.


But then again, look at LG and HTC, who despite are being innovatve are losing money making mobile phones.

Yes, OIS is important. Sony does know this, as seen in their digital camera. For the average consumers, most people "thinks" that Sony has a better camera than apple or samsung, and "thinks" that their phones are expensive, slow and unreliable. This reputation has been build a long long time ago.

I have been to many countries that people does not even know that Sony are making phones. Even if they do, they could not afford the cheapest Sony smarthphones, and guess what their next smartphone will be?
[ This Message was edited by: yuunanase on 2018-01-10 05:53 ]

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Posted: 2018-01-10 06:51:07
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Lonewolf223 Posts: 361

I live in india and many friends of mine dont even know the names of current sony flagship. They made fun of me when i said i am waiting for the next sony flagship. The only major brands they are aware of are apple,samsung and nowadays lg is also showing improvement.
I hope sony does better marketing and sells its smartphones in more countries.
The only reason z2 lagged behind competition when it came to sales was because of poor marketing.
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Posted: 2018-01-10 07:20:32
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ADIDA Posts: > 500

Source Sony:

“Xperia XA2 and XA2 Ultra are no different, with leading front camera technology first seen in our flagship XZ line. We’re targeting 2018 as a breakthrough year, and look forward to showcasing further innovations across the entire Xperia portfolio over the coming months.”
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Posted: 2018-01-10 07:37:18
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