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On 2011-02-27 12:24:18, Mizzle wrote:
On 2011-02-27 12:15:34, rikken wrote:
On 2011-02-27 09:09:00, Bonovox wrote:
And so are most Android devices i have used from SE to HTC.
My Desire HD has NO lagging at all
Fastest phone I have ever had
Sorry, had to say it even this is the Arc tread
Gotta say that the Arc I've tried is faster than my DHD.
SE UI overlay, highly doubt its faster
[ This Message was edited by: Toney_Ericsson on 2011-02-28 08:24 ]
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Posted: 2011-02-28 09:18:41
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Is SE suicide fan?
I can't understand why they don't want to make things easy for XDA devs and let them build custom roms.
I was an SE fanboy since the T68 and I was willing to come back with the Arc after a full year of Nexus One but their stup*dity to lock everything is not helping.
They clearly didn't understand the meaning of Android, Samsung did and that's why they are beating the hell out of SE
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Posted: 2011-02-28 09:32:56
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On 2011-02-28 09:18:41, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
On 2011-02-27 12:24:18, Mizzle wrote:
On 2011-02-27 12:15:34, rikken wrote:
On 2011-02-27 09:09:00, Bonovox wrote:
And so are most Android devices i have used from SE to HTC.
My Desire HD has NO lagging at all
Fastest phone I have ever had
Sorry, had to say it even this is the Arc tread
Gotta say that the Arc I've tried is faster than my DHD.
SE UI overlay, highly doubt its faster
[ This Message was edited by: Toney_Ericsson on 2011-02-28 08:24 ]
Well, stop your doubting - it is faster. The CPU is faster and the OS is faster. Something as simple as adding an application shortcut is much, much faster on the Arc. Whereas you have to wait for the list of apps to load on the DHD, the Arc is just instantly showing the list. Lots of these small changes.
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Posted: 2011-02-28 10:02:29
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On 2011-02-28 09:32:56, vegetaleb wrote:
I can't understand why they don't want to make things easy for XDA devs and let them build custom roms.
From SE
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Q: Why do you lock the boot loader of your devices? Isn’t Android supposed to be open source?
A: Yes, Android is an open source platform. Anyone can download it, modify it to their liking and install it on hardware they have designed. A mobile device is much more than the operating system. In our phones there are functionality that have to be secure such as SIM-lock and DRM. We currently don’t have a solution in place to secure that while opening the bootloader and therefore it would break legal agreements with many of our partners if we do.”
On 2011-02-28 09:32:56, vegetaleb wrote:
They clearly didn't understand the meaning of Android, Samsung did and that's why they are beating the hell out of SE
As you can see in the quote above, I think they clearly understand the meaning. The problem is things like the bootloader, which is not part of the Android.
Not sure Samsung actually actively supports jail breaking their devices. I would suspect it is more of an coincidence (loop holes in the code) than something deliberately done by Samsung to make jail breaking "easy" (everything XDA does is still reversed engineered to my best knowledge).
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2011-02-28 09:32 ]
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Posted: 2011-02-28 10:22:50
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It's not only Samsung but HTC,Motorola,Acer...
As Paul Obrien who tried to root the X10 as he did with plenty other devices,he said SE made everything possible to make it 100% locked while other makers let some holes...
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Posted: 2011-02-28 12:03:29
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On 2011-02-28 12:03:29, vegetaleb wrote:
It's not only Samsung but HTC,Motorola,Acer...
It doesn't matter. There is no proof other vendors actively supports XDA in anyway. It only proofs other vendors may have potential security issues with their devices since that's what usually is exploited when jail braking phones (same as with IPhone). Such exploits are not guaranteed to work in next update.
Don't mix up active support with potential security holes exploited by XDA. It has nothing to do with Samsung or HTC supporting them. Security holes is not a good thing, its a bad thing. What XDA can exploit can also be exploited by others with less good intentions. That's how viruses and trojans for instance are spread.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2011-02-28 12:51 ]
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Posted: 2011-02-28 13:45:04
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@mange69 about the front facing camera, i read that they did want to compensate the uniqe slim design that would not be managed with a front facing camera taking to much space. and front facing camera is what 3g was/is video conversation it NEVER did catch on, (except for deaf people, then it's the best invention ever)
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Posted: 2011-02-28 13:46:34
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On 2011-02-28 10:02:29, Mizzle wrote:
On 2011-02-28 09:18:41, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
On 2011-02-27 12:24:18, Mizzle wrote:
On 2011-02-27 12:15:34, rikken wrote:
On 2011-02-27 09:09:00, Bonovox wrote:
And so are most Android devices i have used from SE to HTC.
My Desire HD has NO lagging at all
Fastest phone I have ever had
Sorry, had to say it even this is the Arc tread
Gotta say that the Arc I've tried is faster than my DHD.
SE UI overlay, highly doubt its faster
[ This Message was edited by: Toney_Ericsson on 2011-02-28 08:24 ]
Well, stop your doubting - it is faster. The CPU is faster and the OS is faster. Something as simple as adding an application shortcut is much, much faster on the Arc. Whereas you have to wait for the list of apps to load on the DHD, the Arc is just instantly showing the list. Lots of these small changes.
The Arc uses the same Snapdragon as what's in the DHD but the Arc has less RAM than the DHD. How exactly is it therefore going to be faster when it actually isnt?
I have seen many of these Arc videos and the SE overlay over Android still looks the same bag of shit that's on the X10 which is slow as hell compared to the DHD.
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Posted: 2011-02-28 13:54:59
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On 2011-02-28 13:54:59, Toney_Ericsson wrote:
The Arc uses the same Snapdragon as what's in the DHD but the Arc has less RAM than the DHD. How exactly is it therefore going to be faster when it actually isnt?
I have seen many of these Arc videos and the SE overlay over Android still looks the same bag of shit that's on the X10 which is slow as hell compared to the DHD.
Well Mizzle actually used arc. and I think used other phones too ( how he can compare phones he didn't use !! ) and it's faster.. how is it faster with lower RAM is normally if you take four points into account...
1- from hardware perspective, Arc may use faster and lower latency RAM this will give it more performance even with lower RAM amount...
2- from software perspective, we can have more optimization for the hardware being used...
3- again from software perspective, Arc may use less RAM than X10 duo to it's redesigned
software which doesn't take it too deep into Android. so it doesn't need that much RAM...
4- Having more RAM doesn't means more performance or sleeker performance, more RAM will affect only if the software is huge or have bad code ( memory leak ) that make it use more RAM than actually needed.. if softwares are well designed and coded and not too much heavy, then they won't need more RAM, and adding more RAM will just mean money wasting...
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Posted: 2011-02-28 14:44:18
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As a wise man once said. Unused RAM is wasted Ram.
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Posted: 2011-02-28 16:29:04
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