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Apologies, do you mean CAD/CAM? If so, I do believe 156Mhz CPU on a P910i may not be capable of performing CAD stuff at reasonable speed. Also, imho, CAD perhaps applies to the needs of smaller groups of people and in order to perform any form meaningful CAD stuff, I believe a true workstation is required. Even a Thinkpad T43 performs sluggishly with comes to CAD stuff.
I recalled downloading just a CAD drawing viewer on my PC, the viewer itself is already almost 20MB...
Hence I do not really think that because of not being able to view or work on CAD drawings is a show stopper for one to purchase a phone with PDA features TODAY...
Cheers
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Posted: 2006-03-22 13:01:07
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@etaab
I prefer the stability of Symbian over the application diversity and complexity of PPC. I have used Palm OS (TH55, Treo 650 & LifeDrive) and WM5 (HTC Universal) and I prefer my Symbian Nokia 9500. Personal devices for most people are tools not toys. Frequent crashes and need to reset is not that much fun after a few weeks. Finally, remember the P990 is not a PDA it is a Smartphone - if you want a PDA you will better to look at WM5.
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Posted: 2006-03-22 14:38:14
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@ adnhk1 - Ive been using PowerCAD CE for PPC 2003 in the past, and its been pretty versatile in its functioning and capable of what i needed it for. In fact i found it to be more complex than the desktop CAD package id been using for a couple of years.
Im hoping the P990i will be able to run apps of similar complexity, and not simply be a glorified organiser. I dont really use CAD anymore, so the P990i for me does not need to live up to that, but i do require apps of a professional standard.
@ Jah - Its not a question of stability for me, because ive always found Windows PPC to be just as stable as any Symbian OS ive used, if not moreso. Fortunately my needs of a business class device have become more "lite" than they used to be, and im sure the P990i could suit my needs, however that does not mean i'd be happy if all the device could do was process words, spreadsheets, databases and presentations. I'd still like to have the option to install powerful apps that can compete with more (from a developers standpoint) sophisticated platforms as WM5.
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Posted: 2006-03-23 01:07:25
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CAD on a phone?! That a joke? Must be rubbish and totally useless?
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Posted: 2006-03-23 10:37:32
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No, they're very good pieces of software. Check them out for Windows devices:
http://www.givemepower.com/products/powercad_ce.cfm
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Posted: 2006-03-23 11:44:46
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@etaab,
Not to start a flaming war, but as I've mentioned earlier, I find PPC apps more "bloated" than "sophisticated" and this means sucking more battery life out of the phone which in turns does not last even a single day. CAD app is perhaps being catered for a smaller market needs, but a CAD app available for PPC platform does not make PPC more professional over any other platforms. A PDA app more sophisticated than Desktop version? Oh, please tell Microsoft Windows team, graphics card like ATI and Nvidia and CAD/CAM developers about your findings so that Microsoft can drop Windows Vista, ATI, Nvidia can stop making FireGLs, etc and CAD/CAM developers can drop making any more desktop applications cos all they needed is a roughly 2MB PPC software, running on Windows Mobile 2003 with perhaps an ATI Imageon graphics chip to do all their engineering works
So what apps for "professional standards" are you requesting P990i to have?
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Posted: 2006-03-23 13:24:46
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I wouldnt say its a flame war adnhk1, its more turning into a discussion about Symbian vs Windows rather than focusing on the P990i. One ive had on many forums many times over the years.
When i speak of sophistication, im not referring to the extra hardware power that a PPC has over a slower P series phone. Im speaking about the actual capabilities of the operating system itself. From a developers standpoint, Windows, Palm and Linux are all more sophisticated than Symbian. They all offer better support for developers, more open programming environments, better socket support and access to more APIs. Symbian isnt aimed at being a replacement for Windows PPC or Palm, but it is meant as a convergence operating system into standard phones to make them available to the masses.
Its not that Symbian could not have the same types of apps developed for it, they simply would not be as feature-rich.
In regards to your comments about my CAD package, the one i used on my pc was a rather basic one, it was not an expensive program and had rather basic features. Im sure if i spent £2,000 on a professional suite it would be many times more advanced than the CE version i used on my PPC - theres no need to mock what i said. I also used the fact i needed a CAD program on my PPC to illustrate the shortcomings of Symbian - at the time (and probably still true to this day) there are little or no CAD programs available for Symbian devices. At the time, i could only find one, and it was a simple viewer that offered no editable functions.
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Posted: 2006-03-23 15:06:53
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I think I got it. It is more of a developer support issue than OS sophistication. The problem with Symbian is that they are the market leader in the mobile phone segment, hence they seem to be doing things as they wishes. Yes, I do agree that both Symbian and UIQ are not giving as many hidden and non-hidden APIs out openly as developers had wished. I can recall a very simple API which SE and UIQ were ignoring all developers, i.e., the simple Flip Open Keylock API. Hence, no developers till date can tap on this API to work out some solid screenlock utilities, such as when the screen is locked, the background light cannot be permanently killed.
Cheers
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Posted: 2006-03-24 12:23:42
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still any word on what network its out on? Hope its te UK's three network
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Posted: 2006-03-24 12:29:07
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@ adnhk1 - i think you could define an OS as more or less sophisticated in relation to how much it offers developers.
@ peepboon - why on earth would you want it on
3 ? its a relatively poor network. Im sure all the major networks will get the phone, but id guess Vodafraud will be the first, since they have a good friendship with SE at this point in time and have signed exclusivity deals with quite a few handsets, most recently the W900i.
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Posted: 2006-03-24 13:30:37
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