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arri Posts: 5

hi

usually i wait for the battery to completely run empty before recharging. 'they say' that's the best thing to do. also when charging, completely fill the battery all the way... 'they say...'

what happened to me: the battery was completely empty, the phone actually turned off. before i went to bed, i plugged in the adapter. next day: nothing. still empty, the phone wouldn't even turn on.
i have a second battery, which had a little power left. so i put that one in. phone turned on, i used it for half a day, before the phone started saying the battery was empty. when it did i immediately plugged in the charger... but nothing happenes.

it seems the electronics that deal with the charging is f**ked-up or something.

when the charger is plugged in while the phone is off, the phone will cycle through this sequence all the time:

- blue screen (booting?) -showing the 'charging' screen with animated charging battery for 2 seconds - white screen (10 seconds?) - black screen (off?) - blue screen ...etc..

with the first battery nothing happens at all.. i think that this battery killed the charger hardware of the phone..

so the phone works fine with a full battery, but it won't charge the battery anymore.

is anyonen familiar with this problem?
is it really broken hardware? or is it a software thing and can it be solved by resetting the phone or something?


and ohja, when i turn the phone on with the little power left in the battery, it'll sometimes look as if it charging (animated battery..) but usually only for a short period



it's a T630 in a T610 housing.
it's a little over a year old..


thanks
arri

[ This Message was edited by: arri on 2005-10-01 16:11 ]
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Posted: 2005-10-01 17:03:32
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Kryptik Posts: > 500

Have you tried using a different charger? That may resolve the problem... If not, there's a thread hereabouts discussing battery life, maintenance and problems. This message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted: 2005-10-01 18:57:33
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BobaFett Posts: > 500

read here more about batt charging, we discussed it pretty long:

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=61325
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Posted: 2005-10-01 19:22:00
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arri Posts: 5

yes, i tried a different charger, but no succes.
i also tried my charger on another phone, and there it worked fine, so it is the phone.
and in the thread BobaFett posted i didn't really find a lead to similair problems.

i'm afraid the phone is broken...

thanka anyway
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Posted: 2005-10-02 13:48:10
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Kryptik Posts: > 500

Sorry that we couldn't find a solution, buddy. Does sound as if the phone's problematic then... This message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted: 2005-10-02 13:56:38
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

yeah must be the phone.

Lithium batts have circuitry inside that shuts the battery down before the volatage gets too low. Therefore, when your phone dies from a "flat battery", the battery isn't actually completely flat. (running a lithium battery at very low voltages drastically decreases it's life cycle)
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Posted: 2005-10-02 14:12:36
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BlueQuill Posts: 419

Yes. I have encountered a same problem. My phone was completely screwed up. There was a burnt chip or somethin. Had to take it to the phone docs. Mate, there is nothing you can do about it. Rush to someone who deals with mobile phone hardware. This message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted: 2005-10-02 14:28:42
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johnpete Posts: 60

yeah, best bet would be to have the hardware looked at, chances are there's really something wrong with the phone itself. in the future though, better not let your lithium battery run on too low a charge. all those advice re charging and memory effects only applied to the older nickel cadmium & metal hydride batts. try to search here in esato as well as google a lot of sites that provide advice on battery care
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Posted: 2005-10-03 12:36:39
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leeboy13 Posts: > 500

i had a very simular problem with my old samsung d500, where the battery went like this, and i worked out that it was the phone itself, not the battery. i actually left my phone out in the sun on a hot newquay beach this summer - it almost killed my phone by making it run the battery down as within one hour (whether the phone is on or off)...

Gutting!
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Posted: 2005-10-03 13:11:09
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

johnpete, lithium batteries have circuitry to prevent this problem. You actually can't run them completely flat, since they shut the current flow down once they reach a minimum charge level.

When you leave the phone on until the battery 'runs out' and the phone turns off, it is actually turning off because the battery has cut off the elctricity supply to the phone, not because it has run out of charge.

However you are quite correct about memory affect. It does not apply to lithium batteries and you certainly don't need to power cycle the battery to keep it memory free. So you can run it flat if you need to, but you don't HAVE to in order to keep it in good working condition.
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Posted: 2005-10-03 16:18:12
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