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LONDON — Once a major exporter of manners, Britain now needs its own infusion. The situation is so dire, Parliament has given police special powers to deal with anti-social behavior.

Britons' bad behavior is on display in nearly daily news reports about teens — known here as "yobs" (boy spelled backward) — who harass passersby. Ubiquitous businessmen push past others without so much as an "excuse me," and shoppers on cellphones shove money at clerks without a glance or word.

Several books on manners have been published this year. The latest, Lynne Truss' Talk to the Hand: The Utter Bloody Rudeness of Everyday Life (or Six Good Reasons to Stay Home and Bolt the Door), will go on sale Oct. 24.

Prime Minister Tony Blair and Queen Elizabeth II urged the country this year to foster "a culture of respect."

"We've lost our reputation for British manners," says the Rev. Ian Gregory, founder of the Campaign for Courtesy, a grass-roots organization that teaches manners in schools and has declared today the National Day of Courtesy. Gregory hopes Britons will take the day to reflect on their manners.

In advance of the unofficial courtesy day, Campaign for Courtesy has issued thousands of thumb-sized stickers across Britain imprinted with the day's theme: "Thumbs up for Manners."

In 1999, Parliament gave British police special powers to issue ASBOs (anti-social behavior orders) for drunk and disorderly behavior, noise, graffiti, littering, aggressive panhandling, riding bicycles on sidewalks and even failing to maintain a tidy garden. Such acts were deemed "likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress," according to the government's crime-prevention website.

Over the past six years, more than 4,600 ASBOs have been issued. Penalties for serious infractions such as multiple counts of harassment can reach up to $35,000 in fines or five years in jail.

Usually, offenders are temporarily banned from buses or pubs.

"Our aim is to reduce the fear of crime and anti-social behavior — whether it's creating noise, littering or graffiti," Scotland Yard said in a statement.

Colin Gill, a University of Leeds psychologist and manners expert, says manners are cyclical, a fad that comes and goes through the ages.

British courtesy — for example, referring to a gentleman as "sir," a lady as "ma'am" or simply saying "please" and "thank you" — developed in the late 1600s and flourished in Victorian England in the late 1800s as a way for people from different cultures and opinions to have civilized dialogue.

"The cult of being polite and mannered had an awful lot to do with the British Empire, the conception that Britain was on top and it had a mission to civilize the world. Manners were one of the things Britain exported," Gill says. "Manners are a code by which we can all live together and how we should behave."

Though the intent may have been to level the playing field across the empire, the codification of considerate behavior actually helped the upper class maintain its distinct identity and privileges. "It reinforced a social division between the ruled and the rulers. Manners became a way of identify who was in the ruling elite and who was common," Gill says.

After World War II, the British empire began to crumble — and so did the behavior that helped define its culture. With the rise of the middle class and the realization of personal freedoms brought about in part by American pop culture, manners were discarded as an antiquated system that reeked of elitism, Gill says.

"People (who) come here on holiday find that our behavior is no better — if not worse — than anywhere else in the world," Gregory says.

Penny Palmano, a mother of three who lives in Maidenhead, England, says she got fed up with "the general lack of respect from children." Her observations led her to write two books for children about manners including her latest for teens, Yes, Please.






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Posted: 2005-10-07 22:49:22
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Cycovision Posts: > 500

What's with the big grin? Aren't you the one who had a pop at batesie in the 'danger down-under thread' for no apparent reason whatsoever? Something about Americans 'looking down on others' or similar?

You know what, 'buddy', you've just proved it with one smiley!
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Posted: 2005-10-07 22:55:55
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JT Posts: 303

Man thats bullsh*t

I dont watch my manners for nobody. Not even my own fool of a Dad.

If you walk towards me on the pavement you better make sure you're not in my way or Ill barge you straight into the road.

This is just the way I am. I figure nobody gives a damn about me, so I dont give a damn about them.
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Posted: 2005-10-07 22:56:35
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DJcreamz Posts: 463

i spit on you fool, no one disses batesie, u got no manners stuck up americans, aint u got an oil field to steal or a super super size box of fries to eat
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Posted: 2005-10-08 01:19:50
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Sammy_boy Posts: > 500

I think he's spoiling for a flame war!

And that article in many ways is true. There are no manners in this country, it's something that irks me a bit. Everyone's seems to be too selfish and self absorbed to give a sh1t about anyone else in this country.

@JT - I hope you're been sarcastic!
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Posted: 2005-10-08 07:05:21
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ADT0079 Posts: 100

Didn't know Flaming came with Facts...Yes i have already said i am an asshole,but at the same time there have been a few threads that bastie has come to just to make a Stupid Remark about Americans..So this was my time in the Down Under Thread....So stop getting your panties in a bunch.......

I find it funny how fast you get pissed off for something that was directed at someone else..........



We dont have to desinate a day for good manners here......You Rude A$$.....................


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Posted: 2005-10-08 13:49:46
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