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Not long ago there was a lot of threads comparing K750/W800 with N90, and this was an stupid thing because
phones don't have symbian, but now there is a good rival against Nokia and this is the P990
Nokia has the advantage of HDD, while SE has a touchscreen, so wich one will you get or think is better, every opinion will be apreciated
I want to know what you people think about this, I thik the main competitor will be N91, they will be released almost at the same time,
EDIT: The other competitor will be E70, The other E phones don't have camera and thats one really big disadvantage
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Posted: 2005-10-15 23:34:33
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You can not compare the two phones, the P990 is _far_ more superior!
Also in what way is a hdd a advantage in a phone?
Symbian or not you should compare the K750/W800 with N90 in terms of functions.
P-series should be compared to Nokias E-series or Communicator-series
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Posted: 2005-10-15 23:38:52
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@S4k1s
Well, I put N series and N90 is also included for comparison
I thought about E series, but considering only E70 has a camera, i didn't put it but if is necessary I'll change the title
And I was thinking also the advantages and disadvantages of an HDD, the first one is that you have 4Gb instead of 80Mb (I really believe SE will change the amonut of memory when it's released), and thats a lot of more space, a 4Gb MSPD will cost a lot of extra money
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Posted: 2005-10-15 23:49:38
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N91:Memory
* 10 MB of memory are dynamically shared among the phone book, calendar, messages, images and applications
* 4 GB hard drive
P990: Memory
* 80 MB
* MSPD slot
P990 got much better solution. HDD is to fragile to have in a phone.
And as I said before, there is no N-series phone released that can match the P990 specs.
Btw I belive N91 will have a new
competitor on monday
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Posted: 2005-10-15 23:59:15
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You got that one right, I'm just saying it will have already 4Gb in the phone and not buy a MSPD after you get the phone, but of course I'd rather SE solution
And I hope so
I'll wait for Monday!
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Posted: 2005-10-16 00:16:39
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Does anyone really believe the N91 will be released?
The N90 won't be appearing in the UK unless a network takes it on at the last second, and the N91 has been 'delayed' probably because nobody wants it anywhere in the world.
It's a chunky beast, fragile and doesn't even have the nice hi-res screen from many of the other devices. The only other device I know of with a built in HD (well, apart from the forthcoming Samsung smartphone) is the Palm LifeDrive - and that was so SLOOOOW to read/write (spin up time) that it was a nightmare. I guess the Nokia is the same.
Look at Apple.. they've ditched the mini for flash memory. It's definitely the way to go for something that is used to being thrown about and abused by people who won't appreciate how fragile a HDD can be.
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Posted: 2005-10-16 01:21:58
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Simply from a developers viewpoint, the UIQ interface of the P800, P900, P910i and now the P990i has and is many times more sophisticated than the S60 interface and its variations.
So, in essence the P990i will be the more capable phone. I just hope this time around, more people write programs for the phone. UIQ has always been a little unpopular with many coders, simply because its not as widespread as S60.
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Posted: 2005-10-16 01:22:21
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P990 is good spec-ed. Unfortunately, there are 3 factors which will limit it to the same sales volume like its predecessors.
1. Still a BRICK just like its predecessor.
2. Stratospheric price
3. New UIQ3. Let's see how stable (or should I say unstable) this O/S will be when it comes out. I think SE would not be too worry tho because there are many SE fans who are willing to be guinea-pig like in the case of K700/750.
So the more likely scenario is that P990 will compete head-on against the WM business PDAphone segment and not the entertainment segment in which the N90/91 are positioned. The P990 would look weak next to a WM, imo. If any1 have noticed, even Nokia is not going head-on with hard-core WM PDAphone segment. What Nokia is doing is to nip away those stradlers within this segment (e.g enterprise or those needing smartphone but not full pda capability)
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Posted: 2005-10-16 05:29:00
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well, new E series will be more successful compared to p990i. there are varios reasons
1. NO camera, which is a big advantage in rich corporate sector
2. better ergonomics. you cannot operate p990 or its preceedors with just one hand. actually every company got it except for SE
treo, new WM 5.0, blackberries, new nokia, you can handle them with one hand with ease
besides, not so many people want a touchscreen. especially in the corporate sector, they want qwerty. but if you are using qwerty on the P series, you need to be an octopus. the ergonomics is very very bad here ...
3. the price of p990i won be competetive. new E-series is told beeing sold in the price range of 450-500 euros (VAT included, before subsudies). plus there will be other devices on the martket from HTC, motorola, hp, that will surpas the p990i having a lower price tag
4. p990i want to be an all in one device, it will tap every market, but it turns out to be a bad move. p990 is too expensive for a regular joe and too ininteresant for corporate sector, since they will be cheaper and better devices on the market.
5. no EDGE is a problem in certain countries as well, especially in the US.
6. other thing is that the new E series have considerable better displays (resolution 353x288 vs. 240x320, 16m colours vs. 262k)
7. better connectivity, E61 e.g. features BlackBerry Connect, VistoMail, MS ActiveSync protol, which makes it a bummer in corporate sector. especially MS AS => allowing direct syncrhonization of your MS Exchange account over the air, and even push email
those are just a few arguments, why P990i will fail in march/april 2006 when it will be launched ...
8. and I almost totally forgot, there will be almost no software for p990i when it will be launched. UIQ 3.0 and Symbian 9.0 represents a whole new platform for Pseries. the programs have to be completelly rewritten from scrath. new schemes are required, new resolution as well, an it is not even binary compatible ...
9. N91 will feature 30 MB of RAM and 30MB of storage plus 4GB hard disk
so it will use hard drive for storage only
the people in nokia think a bit more then in palm that put evertyhing on the hard drive
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Posted: 2005-10-16 16:20:01
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mib, the P990 is a brick yes. It's also a touchscreen in case you hadn't noticed
And price? How much is a communicator? Not cheap.
P990 is no bigger or smaller than any touchscreen (except the xda mini which isn't that much smaller)
Until SE bring out a hardscreen smartphone you can't really make comparison's to non-touchscreen phones, afterall you are the one who can't fathom comparing an N90 to a K750
Now the P990 is a ten times better than the N90, AND it has a touchscreen.
And let's wait and see about the bugs mate. Everything new has bugs even Nokia. As far as guinea pigs go, well wtf do you mean about K700/750? I've owned both phones and neither have given me any problems. In fact, on the strength of those phones alone I am quite prepared to trust the P990 will be an excellent phone (however I personally am waiting for the smaller hardscreen candybar's).
Most of the negative reports I've read about those two phones have been beat ups or idiots who haven't read the manual. Of the few well known issues with these phones none are more or less serious than the types of issues any OEM suffers when releasing new phones.
Again you are making an assumption that ALL the bad reports about SE phones are legitimate, but yet you fail to register when anything bad is said about Nokia phones. So in your mind all these bad things are claimed about SE, but in your mind nothing bad is ever claimed about Nokia, so of course you will think SE have all these problems.
It's a load of bollocks mate. SE are no better or worse than Nokia when it comes to bugs, and if someone buying a K750 is a guinea pig, then someone buying an N90 is a festering infected radiated lab rat.
(honestly, would you be the guinea pig to test out the god aweful ergonomics of that phone?)
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Posted: 2005-10-17 03:22:39
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