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http://www.mk-magazine.com/news/archives/001567.php
my mate found that online, and sent it to me, and im absolutly Livid, what the hell gives the church to sterotype one kind of person, then spreat these sterotypes onto just about anyother culture or person. Out of their so called 'goth giveaways' I am could fit into many of the ones I listed below
-Frequently wears black clothing. - i wear what I like
-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts. - o no I wear a cand endorced shit I will die
-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson
claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please
discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.) - ton of shit
-Associates with other people that
dress, act or speak eccentrically. some people may have speach problems they must be goths now
-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible,
prayer, church or sports. - i say f**k all that
-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult,
witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan. - do you think this counts for harry potter?
-Takes drugs. paracetomol?
-Drinks alcohol. - who hasnt
-Is suicidal and/or depressed. every one will someitmes lifes way init
-Complains of boredom. - im bored right now
-Sleeps too excessively or too little. - i like my sleep
-Is excessively awake during the night. - im a insomniac to
-Demands an unusual amount of privacy. - when i work ppl can piss off
-Spends large amounts of time alone. ha ha loner
-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your chid may speak to
evil sprits through meditation.) yeh... im in my room right now on esato i must be flirting with the devil or some shite
-Insists on spending time with friends
while unaccompanied by an adult. - how many kids do this?
-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a
few examples of this. - who doesnt occasionally?
-Misbehaves at school. again we all do it
-Misbehaves at home. same
-Eats excessively or too little - i like food but am I a goth?
-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this. - lol I want some of that shit
-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature. - halo gta etc
-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer. - i liek being on the net talking to ppl on msn etc
-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner. - clubbin
-Expresses an interest in sex. - im 17 I have for the last 5 years
-Is homosexual and/or bisexual. - talk about discrination against gays
-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology,
Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism. - see whay go against some of the more poular religionas
Now out of all those I selected how many of them can you say you fit into? I got all those myself, I dont see how the church can be so critical of other ppl and cultures, we are all unique and I dont see why the f**k they can say that about normal people like us.
I personally think the church should redo its thoguht on other people whilst looking closly at itsself and modernise so its achually in the real world
and to prove im not a goth ....
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Posted: 2005-12-14 00:25:16
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i wouldnt take it personally. religion has bigger prroblems that that....
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Posted: 2005-12-14 00:28:04
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I do though, don't know why, im not vern religious, it just gets to me how can they say a budha is goth? its a total joke, I wonder if I should write to the vatagan and complain
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Posted: 2005-12-14 00:32:33
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probably just one over anxiouis parent who thinks that they are doing good! everyone is entitled to their views including the author of that artical. if you disagree then ignor it or contact the author and enter into a
constructive debate voicing your concerns with their artical and your point of view.
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Posted: 2005-12-14 00:33:08
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woooohooo im a goth
hmmm ok doke,
fatreg
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Posted: 2005-12-14 00:34:03
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it seems that the Church of Saint Mary have taken it to far though...
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Posted: 2005-12-14 00:35:05
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I do think that this is a joke, if you look at their supposed source for the artical there is no mention of this at all.
some of the points in the artical are so stupid, even for the church, that it cant be real!
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Posted: 2005-12-14 00:35:32
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On 2005-12-14 00:33:08, WelshTom wrote:
probably just one over anxiouis parent who thinks that they are doing good! everyone is entitled to their views including the author of that artical. if you disagree then ignor it or contact the author and enter into a
constructive debate voicing your concerns with their artical and your point of view.
lol id have to be a completly differnt person for them to read my letter, as im apprently a goth, as I like sex to much or something, or maybe im a budah
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Posted: 2005-12-14 00:37:01
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Don't bother yourself too much over it, mate. Quite a few of those points apply to me, and i'm a grown man who's not a goth. Yes, i wear black, i misbehave at school (i teach Science and English), i have tattoos and piercings, blah blah blah... And my church accepts me as i am, so don't allow those relics to get to ya. Now, will all those who self-gratify themselves plz stand up?
[ This Message was edited by: Kryptik on 2005-12-13 23:41 ]
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Posted: 2005-12-14 00:37:52
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it's just basically the Church's opinion of who they obviously feel is not suited to their religion.
You said it yourself "f*** all that" so it means you don't care what they have to say, when the Church would argue that you don't care, so you are not a true believer in the first place.
(just trying to help you see their side)
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Posted: 2005-12-14 01:58:10
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