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Dan_Aykroyd Posts: > 500

As topic... be aware of that! Don't rush to upgrade it, because now problems arise when you copy files from the phone to the computer... let's say, 20 JPGs, in the middle of the transfer you'll get a communication error saying that the file don't exist, and when you try to access the unit, it'll be blank.

So... thought I'd make this thread to let you know that it's NOT SAFE to update it... but, it's just a warning; then you'll do as you please.
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Posted: 2005-12-15 04:54:52
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whizkidd Posts: > 500

@dan, have you updated and tested it? That sucks really....if the prob still persists!
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Posted: 2005-12-15 04:57:00
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Dan_Aykroyd Posts: > 500

Luckily... NO! That's why I try to warn other curious users not to; just to wait a little more...

Then, you'll say, how do I know? Just asked in different threads where users say they updated; plus from the k750/w800 firmware review thread...

Sad, isn't it?
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Posted: 2005-12-15 05:06:40
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numb Posts: > 500

No, that is not a file transfer or firmware bug

That is standard windows behaviour and It is exactly what it appears to be and what windows says it is, a loss in connection, due to the usb connector being very slightly lose thus the small pins lose connection.

Move the usb connector a litle in its socket, or pull it out and press it in again, and it connects again.
When having the usb cable connected place the phone and cable in such a way that the cable is supported, and there is no strain on the cable pulling it out/up/down.

For instance, Placing the phone near the edge of the table with the cable hanging over the edge from the phone, can make it lose connection. Make sure the the connector is plugged firmly into the socket, and that part of the cable is placed on the table together with the phone.

This is also very important when doing firmwareupgrades to prevent "communication errors" when upgrading.



[ This Message was edited by: numb on 2005-12-15 06:25 ]
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Posted: 2005-12-15 06:51:42
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rockygali Posts: > 500

good work numb!

ok people, lets just not blame this simple glitches to the FW, i still believe that SE assesses these probs with prompt responsiblity. technology is a continuous process, for now were all certain that one way or another, wot R1N lacks or havin probs, R1AA delivers... but still, we all know wot comes next... other bugs.. hopefully these one come in iddi biddy sizes.
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Posted: 2005-12-15 07:18:08
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Dan_Aykroyd Posts: > 500

But it happened to a couple of people.. would you say they all was for the cable being loose? Sadly, I don't think so... specially cause they all got the problem when copying files from the phone to PC, not the other way around...

EDIT: Now it's been MORE than a couple; check the firmware review thread...

[ This Message was edited by: Dan_Aykroyd on 2005-12-15 12:22 ]
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Posted: 2005-12-15 13:19:05
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rockygali Posts: > 500

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On 2005-12-15 13:19:05, Dan_Aykroyd wrote:
But it happened to a couple of people.. would you say they all was for the cable being loose? Sadly, I don't think so... specially cause they all got the problem when copying files from the phone to PC, not the other way around...

EDIT: Now it's been MORE than a couple; check the firmware review thread...

[ This Message was edited by: Dan_Aykroyd on 2005-12-15 12:22 ]


well i can say that they all have looose cables man. how bout me and numb? arent we included in the thread? well lets just say that... R1AA is really not the perfect comfort fit FW for K750, since others are still experiencing difficulties, but blaming the new FW.. too early. mwarner has it easy on explaining these things.. i guess i dont.. but for me.. all is fine back here... hope you guys find yer fun in the new FW... all hopes are up man! peace out!

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[ This Message was edited by: rockygali on 2005-12-15 12:35 ]
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Posted: 2005-12-15 13:35:22
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Beep Posts: 172

hello peeps

I haven't had time to check the threads but was woundering:

is the error only with 750's to 800's?

is the error on large sticks (64MB+)

is the error only with third party firmware (not SEUS)?

is the error localized to a Firmware (EU_1 EU_2 etc...)?

I'm not doubting the firmware NOT being faulty just,

is it related to some condition, and if so what or does it affect ALL!!!

This is quite a complicated subject - I'm going to sit in a corner and cry
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Posted: 2005-12-15 13:45:06
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chowkb Posts: 40

I also encounter this problem in the new R1AA008 and also the previous R1NA005 firmware..... I can never copy more than 200MB of files from my phone to PC....I've tried 2 different USB cables and 3 different PCs. This is so frustrating =( How I wish I can have R1L002 back......
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Posted: 2005-12-15 15:04:17
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numb Posts: > 500

#Dan_Aykroyd

Im just saying that when you specifically receive the "communication error" from windows and then nolonger can acces the removable drive, it simply means what it says. Just like with any other removable devises. It means that the 2 devices nolonger have connection. It is not comparable to the previous "file transfer ms duo corruption bug" which did the transfer without complaining, or corrupted files, or even deleted files.

This particular error is a communication error caused by poor physical connection in the socket. I have noticed this many times with all firmwares and many different types of removable devices, including the K750. Sometimes I lose connection instantly when I let go of the cable after connecting and have to connect the cable a couple of times before I find the right position where alle the pins have connection.

The connector and the socket quickly gets a litle whorn from being connected and disconnected, and the pins making the connection simply lose connection.

You can easily invoke or test the error yourself by moving the connector a litle in its socket when attached, or pushing it deeper into the socket when the error arrise. You can then both see and hear the device being connected or disconnected again.

This particular error is a mechanical error, not a firmware error.

And yes, since everyone with these phones use the same type of mechanical connection, it is very likely that many or even everyone at some point will experience this, regardles of firmware.

You can call it poor design of the connector used, but not a firmware bug.


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Posted: 2005-12-15 16:36:26
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