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roumen68 Posts: 54

I have a SONY Cyber Shot W17 with 7,2 Mps resolution. And the lenses are Carl Zeiss. Fantastic pictures.

I heard, that some new Nokia with 2Mps camera uses Carl Zeiss lenses too, but the pictures are not so good as those, taken with K750 and W800i (with standard lenses). Why SE don't use Carl Zeiss lenses?? It is strange! Can you imagine what pictures could be shot with K750 and W800i with Carl Zeiss lenses?

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Posted: 2006-02-02 11:00:23
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lovewalrus Posts: 480

think you answered your own sunsethon there mate! if the lenses are of a poor quality on nokias, don't think they'll do much for SE phones! This message was posted from a WAP device
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Posted: 2006-02-02 11:04:07
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dgilmartin Posts: > 500

sunsethon? Question?
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Posted: 2006-02-02 11:08:17
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jcwhite_uk Posts: > 500

It would also load a lot onto the price as Carl Zeiss lenses are not cheap.
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Posted: 2006-02-02 11:13:44
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JK Posts: > 500

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On 2006-02-02 11:04:07, lovewalrus wrote:
think you answered your own sunsethon there mate! if the lenses are of a poor quality on nokias, don't think they'll do much for SE phones!



This message was posted from a WAP device


This dont make sense, SONY knows what they doing so they can use the lens to its full advantage!!
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Posted: 2006-02-02 11:14:23
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roumen68 Posts: 54

I don't think that any Carl Zeiss lenses could be called of "poor quality". They only can increase the image quality. I mean- the Nokia camera is with a poor quality itself and despite the brand lenses the pictures are not OK. K750 and W800 are with excelent camera quality and the brand lenses could only do the things better.
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Posted: 2006-02-02 11:17:52
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jcwhite_uk Posts: > 500

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On 2006-02-02 11:17:52, roumen68 wrote:
I don't think that any Carl Zeiss lenses could be called of "poor quality". They only can increase the image quality. I mean- the Nokia camera is with a poor quality itself and despite the brand lenses the pictures are not OK. K750 and W800 are with excelent camera quality and the brand lenses could only do the things better.


An item is only as good as the sum of its parts.
If the phone has a rubbish camera receiver then adding amazing lenses isnt going to help much. Also if the phone has a great receiver then rubbish lenses will not help.
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Posted: 2006-02-02 11:50:38
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JK Posts: > 500

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On 2006-02-02 11:50:38, jcwhite_uk wrote:
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On 2006-02-02 11:17:52, roumen68 wrote:
I don't think that any Carl Zeiss lenses could be called of "poor quality". They only can increase the image quality. I mean- the Nokia camera is with a poor quality itself and despite the brand lenses the pictures are not OK. K750 and W800 are with excelent camera quality and the brand lenses could only do the things better.


An item is only as good as the sum of its parts.
If the phone has a rubbish camera receiver then adding amazing lenses isnt going to help much. Also if the phone has a great receiver then rubbish lenses will not help.


Am I reading this wrong?
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Posted: 2006-02-02 11:56:46
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roumen68 Posts: 54

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An item is only as good as the sum of its parts.
If the phone has a rubbish camera receiver then adding amazing lenses isnt going to help much. Also if the phone has a great receiver then rubbish lenses will not help.
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Of course, you are right! But what I mean is: amazing receiver + amazing lenses!

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[ This Message was edited by: roumen68 on 2006-02-02 11:12 ]
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Posted: 2006-02-02 12:08:43
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optiplex Posts: 220

Nokia with Carl Zeiss lenses is just a marketing gimmick. The lens alone cant do wonders if the sensor is bad. Anyways in my opinion SE and other manufacturers are not putting in high quality parts in to phone cameras not because they don't have the technology; it is because they don't want to challenge the digital camera market yet. Especially if Sony starts putting in decent cameras in to phones then they would loose in digital camera market. And of cause they don't want to put out the best they have cos they want to save something for the next model.

Samsung has already proven that you can have 8MP cams with 3x optical zoom in a compact sized phone, so it is not a matter of technology anymore. All depends on their marketing strategies.
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Posted: 2006-02-02 14:16:23
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