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axxxr Posts: > 500

MP's have voted by a huge margin to ban smoking in enclosed public spaces in England from 2007.so do you think this is generally a good move or do you think it will be affecting your libertys?

I'm a smoker and i think this generally a good idea,but i am not in favour of complete ban,it would be better i think to make well ventilated smoking area's inside public places instead.
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Posted: 2006-02-15 01:39:44
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Xugaa Posts: > 500

smoking is a choice that people make, even if it does damage your health, and they enjoy it, and with all the money that countries and businesses make from the tobacco industry i don't think a complete ban will ever go through. although i agree that it should be banned in most if not all enclosed public places simply because if a smoker wants to damage their own health, then thats fine, but its not right or fair to damage other non-smokers.

agree?

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Posted: 2006-02-15 01:46:09
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axxxr Posts: > 500

Yes i do agree with you on that,like i said im not against the ban,i feel that why should non-smokers affect their health by breathing in smoke from people around them.But at the same time equaly smokers rights should be respected aswell,smoking areas would work best in this case.
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Posted: 2006-02-15 01:59:56
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Luke-the-magic-man Posts: > 500

some interesting points there, I personally don't smoke and it doesnt bother me if other people do unless they are blowing it in your face, or your stuck in a really smokey room.

I think a partial ban is a good idea though according to lots of stdiess passive smoking is achaully worse the lighting one up yourself, and I don't think that the majority of the population should be made to suffer from smokers, butI don't think a complete ban will ever happen, the first reason is because it will effect peoples liberties, the second it will crsuh a large industry in the uk, but the main one being the governmet will lose lots of tax pennies they put on ciggerettes etc.

I do think having seperate and VERY well ventelated rooms would work, but it could lead to segregation between the population and divide us as a whole if every time you need a fag you have to go into another room.
if you think of it from a 16year old point of view, all the "cool kids" smoke but you don't want to, yet still want to hang around with them, your going to go into that room and even though its a well ventelated room its still going to stink and will still be easy to chain smoke which may make them pick the habbit up, and it works like a viscious circle...

i so ired so I hope most of fthat made sense
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Posted: 2006-02-15 02:03:32
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Xugaa Posts: > 500

yea sure although they would have to think carefully about how they went about smoking areas, since the ones you have at the moment, which are like right next to the non-smokers o_O how that works i don't know?, will not do... in my opinion.
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Posted: 2006-02-15 02:04:37
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Luke-the-magic-man Posts: > 500

thats ture, especially in reasturants, the amout of time a romatic meal has been reuined by a load of smoke just blowing over you arrrr - thats one of the times smokers can really piss me off
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Posted: 2006-02-15 02:08:31
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amnesia Posts: > 500

I think it's good.

More countries should follow suit, I'm glad the UK is starting to follow.
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Posted: 2006-02-15 02:14:36
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axxxr Posts: > 500

and whats ruins my night out is when i end up in non-smoking bar or restaurant...thats the way i see it,how can anyone relax without a cigarette?..its all so clinical if you know what i mean.

Humans have been smoking for 1000's of years now in form or another,its who we are...even though i know it is bad for your health and all,i believe it affects our body's according to a person,some have a higher or lesser tolerance to the affects of smoking...put at this way,i have seen some smokers live longer than non-smokers.
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Posted: 2006-02-15 02:16:07
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coo1k3n Posts: 272

'MP's have voted by a huge margin to ban smoking in enclosed public spaces in England from 2007'- Great, gives us just one more whole year for us non-smokers to develop cancer!!! lol.

I think smoking should be completely banned in public spaces. I just came back from work (at my parents restaurant) and I came back stinking of smoke. I had to wash my hair and all my clothes to get the smell out. Not just me but all the other workers (who don't smoke) have to breathe it in constantly (though many of the workers actually smoke!). Your eyes sting after a few hours, you become thirsty and your throat gets sore and dry.

You could argue that my parents should do more and put regulations in place for smoking, my dad tells customers they have to smoke at the bar and can only smoke at their tables if others around them are smoking too. But I work mostly behind the bar!!! (good on ya dad for caring about your employees- more importantly your son!). Also other customers still have to smell the smoke- because of course the smoke travels! It would be easier to just ban it altogether in these places to protect workers in these environments 24/7 and customers.

Of course it doesn't just annoy me at the restaurant but in all public spaces. It would just be more pleasant if it was banned in public spaces. I have no problems with people smoking outside though.

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Posted: 2006-02-15 02:19:07
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Luke-the-magic-man Posts: > 500

yes lots of smokers can live longer then non smokers, I knew a non smoker, he was hit by a car and died when he was 12, alot of smokers will last longer then that, but one thing has to be said you are addicted to a harmfull drug which has been directly linked to many diseases and cancer (but then again what hasent lol).

the problem is alot of people know that the raw mateials used in tobacoo products are harmfull to themselves and their family, and alot of people don't want to be exposed to this as they fear it could effect their heath.

You could go to a smoking bar, or even better set up one of those mini bars in your office etc lol
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Posted: 2006-02-15 02:21:51
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