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Here's a new trend that's pissing me off. People don't seem to understand what As New or Mint mean!

I've seen countless "For Sale" threads where people say

"I've got an As New phone, it comes fully boxed with everything, but has a scratch here or a dent there"

While I'm at it, I hate it when people say, "Oh it's totally smashed up and the screen doesn't work, but it's nothing to worry about"

Oh wait, here's another,
people take blurry pics. WTF IS THAT! The pics are useless (except for showing you have the phone) if the pics are blurry. Or sometimes a person has awesome crystal clear pictures and when you ask them to take a picture of the "little scratch" they give you the most blurred out photo in the world.


Here's a few little tips.

Don't lie, it'll make the whole transaction MUCH smoother.
Don't exaggerate! When the phone arrives, if someone gets what wasn't advertised he/she will send it back, and everyone's time will be wasted.


AS NEW means AS NEW! The phone and it's contents are exactly as they would be if you JUST bought the phone and opened it up. (Screen protectors or plastic is NOT required but it helps).
Once there is a scratch, a scrape, a TINY surface scratch on the screen, it's NOT AS NEW ANYMORE!

MINT means, AS New condition, however perhaps it has a bit of oil, a bit of dust in the crevices. Nothing that is totally available.

So try to be clear everyone, it'll help everyone, and boost people's confidence in the For Sale section again.

Note: I'm not talking about personal experience necessarily, it's just that I read some threads and don't talk about it because I don't want to ruin their threads with my comments which might affect them.

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Posted: 2006-04-17 01:38:13
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I'm glad you bought this issue up,about time someone mentioned this...I myself on a couple of occassions bought stuff and it wasn't how it was described in the sale...Its really dissapointing as you would expect fellow esato members to be 100% honest about the conditon of the phone/item for sale.
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Posted: 2006-04-17 01:43:57
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I totally agree, it so much better to deal with an honest person ....
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Posted: 2006-04-17 02:38:16
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Very very true... though I suspect I've been guilty on a couple of occasions of describing a phone 'as new but with a couple of tiny scratches'!

What does make me laugh though is on Ebay, when I see an auction titled something like 'xxx mobile phone, slightly faulty', and when you look at the auction description, it says 'mobile does not power up'. Excuse me? That's more than a 'slight' fault you moron!

And yes, both on here and on Ebay I've encountered 'as new' or 'excellent condition' phones that turn out to be actually quite scratched! Human nature I guess to exaggerate the condition of products to get a better price
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Posted: 2006-04-17 07:23:50
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well said mate, all of that is so true, its like when you buy a phone they have one pic of just the phone, but its taken from a meter away lol like arrrr
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Posted: 2006-04-17 15:31:45
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while I agree in principal with the comments, such listings simply turn me away and I don't feel as strong as you.

if I saw "As new with a scratch" I would instantly know it wasn't what I wanted and I would not even be tempted to consider the item

the time I would definitly start getting upset is when its advertised "as new" but it turns up with scratch
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Posted: 2006-04-17 15:35:27
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On 2006-04-17 15:31:45, Luke-the-magic-man wrote:
well said mate, all of that is so true, its like when you buy a phone they have one pic of just the phone, but its taken from a meter away lol like arrrr



Or those pictures taken with something like a webcam in very poor artifical light - they might as well not bother!
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Posted: 2006-04-17 15:39:33
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yeh so true there sammy. Also as a example when solid was selling them 2 laptops, he took one really really shite picture of a screen of the laptop, nothing else so you couldnt see the laptop, or what was on screen, or even make out the brand I was so disapointed in the lad lol. Another thing that annoys me with it is stock photos or when you copy other peoples pics or descriptions...
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Posted: 2006-04-17 15:44:16
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lol yes, when someone copies and pastes a phone, laptop etc.'s specs from that companies' website, a stock photo and no description of condition, what bits it comes with, I like to see the exact item I'm buying!
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Posted: 2006-04-17 15:54:45
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I'm glad to see that so many people have also noticed this.
Hopefully the section will be better with people that are more honest.
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Posted: 2006-04-17 17:22:06
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