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milkyjoe Posts: 53

OK apparently the W810i supports AAC-HE and AAC+ (The w800 and K750 do not, but K800 users could try this)

However, when I encode a High Complexity AAC file using Nero, it sounds great on the PC (e.g. played in Nero Showtime) but the phone only seems to play the underlying Low Complexity stream, thus the music sounds rubbish and muffled.

How can I get the phone to play AAC-HE properly?

Try what I did and you'll see what I mean

Cheers

[ This Message was edited by: milkyjoe on 2006-07-24 10:34 ]
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Posted: 2006-07-23 19:47:49
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milkyjoe Posts: 53

bump... NO-ONE seems to know much about this, note w800 and k750 do not support this codec, but W300, W550, W600, W810, W900, Z530, K610, K790, K800 do

[ This Message was edited by: milkyjoe on 2006-07-24 10:41 ]
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Posted: 2006-07-24 11:33:18
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Blade Runner Posts: 117

As far as I know, W810 doesn't support advanced AAC decoding, where did you read that info ?

BTW, it's really a firmware related so I want to ask SE officials why they didn't include such support in this phone ?!
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Posted: 2006-07-24 15:34:24
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milkyjoe Posts: 53

I read it from the official SE specs, I didn't make the thing up!

http://developer.sonyericsson.com/getDocument.do?docId=84942

My point is support IS supposed to be included but I can't get it to work.
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Posted: 2006-07-24 17:50:29
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maryus51 Posts: 112

Try then AAC simple . It has still good quality. I tryed on NOKIA 6230 ( 2004 fone ) and it sounds very good AAC ... so this model it must have better cappabilities! Cheers.
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Posted: 2006-07-24 18:08:41
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maryus51 Posts: 112

I've converted a song for You , just leave me you're mail adress to send it. It should play without prob , and at good quality.
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Posted: 2006-07-24 18:16:18
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maryus51 Posts: 112

And one thing more. I converted now a song in AAC , i selected LFP profile , and also with MS Stereo and LFE futures checked . And guess what, it doesen't play , guess i need a specific decoder . So my advice, use normal AAC encoding and it should work perfectly . Even with simple AAC you still get superior quality than MP3's.
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Posted: 2006-07-24 18:37:46
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milkyjoe Posts: 53

Thank you and I appreciate your help but I am not a noob, I'm very proficient and know how to encode in AAC, infact I am using it already.

I'm simply trying to work out if the phone has a specific requirement ie 32kHz 44.1khz bit rate CBR VBR etc in order to play HE-AAC, not basic AAC.

By using HE-AAC you can effectively make your files much smaller even than AAC whilst still keeping the same perceptual output quality.

Infact if YOU ask ME, I'll send you a HE-AAC track I've encoded at extremely low bitrate which will play properly in newer versions of Win Media Player, ie 10 or 11beta, or Nero Showtime or New Winamp, and you can guage the advantage it has over regular AAC.

Now can someone please tell me why w810i won't play HE-AAC properly

[ This Message was edited by: milkyjoe on 2006-07-24 20:40 ]
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Posted: 2006-07-24 21:39:43
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maryus51 Posts: 112

Aha ok sorry then. I will tell You why, in one week when i'll buy the fone. Till then , have fun!
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Posted: 2006-07-25 01:29:02
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jepherberich Posts: 473

From that same document, these standards are supposedly supported in W550/W810: WAV, AAC+, RA8

Ive had the W550 and the W810 now but neither was able to play any of the above formats (with the exception of WAV, which is dependent on the encoding)

I really think should be more careful about their WPs. If they say it supports WAVs partially, it should have been indicated there. I can only assume AAC+ and RA8 are supported partially too.. now it doesnt even say in the WP what specific parameters should be used when encoding in AAC+ and RA8 (I vaguely remember coming across something either in the W810 whitepaper or some other whitepaper the requirements for WAV encoding - but no traces for AAC+ or RA8 whatsoever neither in the WPs nor in the manual)
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Posted: 2006-07-25 02:34:47
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