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I plugged my W810i into my Mac (iMac running OS X 10.4.6) to copy some music over. The phone popped up a menu, asking me to choose "File Transfer" or "Phone ___" (can't remember exactly). I chose "File Transfer," and the phone seemed to reboot itself, then came back with the warning not to disconnect until the "software" was properly terminated on the computer. Finally, both the phone's internal memory and memory card mounted as separate "drives." So far, so good, right?
After I was finished, I ejected the phone card "drive." The phone reported it was now safe to disconnect. Then I ejected the phone memory "drive," but OS X stubbornly insisted that, "The volume is still in use and cannot be ejected. Try quitting applications and try again." However, I did not transfer any files to the phone's internal memory at all!
Since the Mac kept refusing to eject the phone, yet I also did not want to repeat my flashing screen drama (
click here), I shut down the Mac, then disconnected the phone. The phone properly rebooted itself and all is now well.
But, I'm appropriately freaked out by this experience. Must I always remove the memory stick and use a card reader (which is far less scary) from now on? Can this phone never be used over direct USB connection without fear of corrupting its memory? Or is the warning from the Mac something that can be safely ignored?
Please advise... did I waste my money on a spare USB cable?
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[ This Message was edited by: Hlcn Twst on 2006-09-20 19:41 ]
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Posted: 2006-08-13 16:59:12
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I had a w810i and now the k800i. No need to worry as this behavior is normal.
You are given the option of using the file transfer mode or phone mode which is also normal. I can not be sure but I think that this is more for the benefit of Windoze users as for us Mac users, we have BT iSync capabilities, and no need to load drivers. Regardless, the next best thing to get for your Mac when you are connecting and disconnecting external drives such as the one on your phone is a copy of: FinderCleaner --->
http://mobile.feisar.com/. This will delete the little files that Finder makes on your drives. It will also eject the drive after it cleans it. Before you ask, nope, it will not harm your drive, phone, or MS DUO.
In short, you can use either the cable or a card reader. I have a 17 inch Mac so it has the PC Card slot and I use this mainly as I am too lazy to find the cable but I also use the cable as well and have not had any problems with either.
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[ This Message was edited by: sapporobaby on 2006-08-13 22:49 ]
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Posted: 2006-08-13 23:48:15
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Try selecting both drive images at the same time on the desktop, and press Apple-E
Works for me most of the time...
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Posted: 2006-08-13 23:49:59
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On 2006-08-13 23:48:15, sapporobaby wrote:
I had a w810i and now the k800i. No need to worry as this behavior is normal.
You are given the option of using the file transfer mode or phone mode which is also normal. I can not be sure but I think that this is more for the benefit of Windoze users as for us Mac users, we have BT iSync capabilities, and no need to load drivers.
uhm, aren't we talking cable, not bluetooth? The current version of windows doesn't need drivers for bluetooth.
The choice of transfer or phone mode is an Apple thing - in windows you automatically get both modes, though if you want to manage the phones address book etc, you need thirdparty software - Microsoft don't offer anything built-in. But the automatic cable drivers give access to the phones gprs modem, memory card, serial port, obex interface, device management interface etc. and there are several excellent free programs for phone management (such as My Phone Explorer).
From the W700 on SE have fixed the usb mass storage compliance and it now truly complies with the protocol (unlike the K750/W800, which do need drivers to be externally loaded).
It's important imho, that people realise that Windows supports Bluetooth out of the box and that SE phones are now USB Mass Storage Compliant. Anti-Windows FUD does nothing to help the situation for end users.
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Regardless, the next best thing to get for your Mac when you are connecting and disconnecting external drives such as the one on your phone is a copy of: FinderCleaner --->
http://mobile.feisar.com/. This will delete the little files that Finder makes on your drives. It will also eject the drive after it cleans it. Before you ask, nope, it will not harm your drive, phone, or MS DUO.
since you are the king of utilising every opportunity of one upmanship you can against windows, let me just note that windows doesn't leave that mess on your memory card
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Posted: 2006-08-14 00:24:26
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Oh man!
You said: "uhm, aren't we talking cable, not bluetooth? The current version of windows doesn't need drivers for bluetooth."
I say: Yes we were talking about cables but being as this is a MAC related thread and he has a MAC related issue I saw nothing with mentioning his BT options. So please correct me if I am wrong for suggesting additional solutions.
You said: "The choice of transfer or phone mode is an Apple thing - in windows you automatically get both modes, though if you want to manage the phones address book etc, you need thirdparty software - Microsoft don't offer anything built-in. But the automatic cable drivers give access to the phones gprs modem, memory card, serial port, obex interface, device management interface etc. and there are several excellent free programs for phone management (such as My Phone Explorer)."
Survey(and I say): Not quite right. The choice of modes is an SE thing. I get it as well on guess what, my PC. The phone detects a connection and gives the user the option to decide what to do. Which automatic cable drivers are you talking about? The one's that you have to install to make the phone work with the PC?
You said: "From the W700 on SE have fixed the usb mass storage compliance and it now truly complies with the protocol (unlike the K750/W800, which do need drivers to be externally loaded)."
I say: Apple/Mac's need no drivers to install and is fully compliant with the USB Mass Storage protocol. Check and mate. Would this be considered my upmanshipping (not a word) Mac against Windows?
You said: "It's important imho, that people realise that Windows supports Bluetooth out of the box and that SE phones are now USB Mass Storage Compliant. Anti-Windows FUD does nothing to help the situation for end users."
I ask: How does Window support BT out of the box? Is there a Windows BT application or is it a 3rd party application that someone has to install along with the drivers to get the assorted dongles to work? This is new to me and I do have a PC, so please explain this more in detail because you have touched on a Windows functionality that I did not know existed. As for helping the end user, I am under the impression from his post that he is a MAC user so Windows for the most part has nothing to do with this and my mentioning it was as an illustration.
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Regardless, the next best thing to get for your Mac when you are connecting and disconnecting external drives such as the one on your phone is a copy of: FinderCleaner --->
http://mobile.feisar.com/. This will delete the little files that Finder makes on your drives. It will also eject the drive after it cleans it. Before you ask, nope, it will not harm your drive, phone, or MS DUO.
You said: "since you are the king of utilising every opportunity of one upmanship you can against windows, let me just note that windows doesn't leave that mess on your memory card"
I say: I am not the king of anything. I was helping a fellow Mac user to understand the processes going on with his phone. I feel that he was helped from my posts. Only he can answer if you have added anything to the discussion. Second, unless he is going back and forth into a Windows environment, he would not need the to use a program to remove the ._ds files as the are Mac-centric. By the way, they are not mess but give the location of preferences utilized by Finder. Us Mac users consider this part of the OS.
At the end of the day, if you have a solution to his Mac problem please by all means feel free to correct me and to show him a better way.
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[ This Message was edited by: sapporobaby on 2006-08-13 23:54 ]
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Posted: 2006-08-14 00:49:47
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burn the mac n use linx or windows lol
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Posted: 2006-08-14 01:42:34
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On 2006-08-14 01:42:34, slugworth wrote:
burn the mac n use linx or windows lol
It is post like these that make my signature all the more true.
**sigh**
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[ This Message was edited by: sapporobaby on 2006-08-14 00:54 ]
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Posted: 2006-08-14 01:45:00
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lol only joking
i use Mac and Windows hehe but i use Intel so its still shity
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Posted: 2006-08-14 02:08:12
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Funny how every one of these posts always turns into a Mac vs. Windows vs. Linux debate
To each his own - I'm a Mac user primarily. I only use Windows because my job forces me to do so. I guess they like having 3x the IT staff they would need otherwise
Anyway,
sapporobaby, thanks for the tips. More recently, however, something odd happened: I ejected the phone card, and then the phone. Both quickly disappeared from the Finder... but the phone insisted it was still connected
Again, I had to shut down the Mac, after which the phone reported "safe" and rebooted itself back to normal. What do you suppose happened there?
I've actually used FinderCleaner before and it works great, BTW.
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Posted: 2006-08-14 05:05:06
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Back to the topic....
I use both W810i & K800i with my mac, the problem you encountered "The volume is still in use and cannot be ejected" means that a connection between your phone and mac stille exists somewhere. Rebooting your mac will eventually solve it but that is only if you can't trace which app is causing the problem.
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Posted: 2006-08-14 05:19:16
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