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Non-aussies may have read in other threads, that australia's largest telco, telstra, has just switched on a UMTS HSDPA 850MHz network australia wide, which covers 98% of our population.

Unfortunately, HSDPA UMTS 850 handsets aren't very common at all.

As part of telstra's press briefing today, they released this statement:

http://www.telstra.com.au/abo[....]ses_article.cfm?ObjectID=38377

which says:

"Telstra has been working with leading handset manufacturers, including Samsung, Motorola, LG and Sony Ericsson to produce an impressive NEXT GTM roadmap of approximately 30 devices that will be available over the next 18 months. At launch we have four mobiles (Samsung A701 and A501, Telstra ZTE 850/51 and LGTU500), one PDA (i-mate JASJAM) and one data card (GT Max), with Motorola next month and Palm releasing soon after."

Take this as you will, but the fact that they specifically mentioned sony ericsson as a handset manufacturer they were talking to, and stated they should have 30 HSDPA UMTS 850 devices over the next 18 months, suggests to me that we'll be seeing such a device from SE in 2007, maybe early 2008.
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Posted: 2006-10-06 19:27:33
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Thats impressive. Good to Aussies.

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Posted: 2006-10-07 04:39:42
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That could be good for US peeps, too. We need 850 sets too.
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Posted: 2006-10-07 07:27:10
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Impressive indeed.

> But not a SMART transition. Here in Canada we're getting ready to launch HSDPA/UMTS on BOTH the 850/1900Mhz bands. I'm wondering why in Australia they didnt follow suit?

This would give them the choice to offer phones that ONLY have 1 band or the other for UMTS/HSDPA; but they've now cornered themselves in a tight hole.

STill you should celebrate. I'm betting on SE to start shipping UMTS/HSDPA models on the 850/1900mhz bands within 9 months = June 2007!
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Posted: 2006-10-07 07:30:32
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Prom1, things in australia are a little more involved than how i made it sound.

Currently, we have a few telcos, 3, optus, vodafone, and telstra who are all running UMTS on the 2100 MHz spectrum as we speak. This coverage is really in major metropolitan areas only, and doesn't cover any rural or remote areas.

Telstra also had an 850MHz CDMA network, which was primarily used in rural areas. Over the last 10 months, they have upgraded virtually all of their cell towers (in the city and in the bush) to support the new HSDPA UMTS 850MHz. Telstra's metropolitan 2100MHz coverage is still up and running, as is their GSM and CDMA coverage. In 2008, the CDMA will be switched off allowing for even more bandwidth for the HSDPA.

So in essence, we now have a dual band 850/2100 UMTS network.

Telstra have announced plans to progessive update the 850 UMTS, supporting speeds of up to 14Mbps next year, and up to 40Mbps in 2008/9. The bad thing is that the data plans are still quite expensive, in comparison to ADSL/cable, but i'm sure that will come down.

A little bit more info: Telstra was fully government owned, and has been progressively privatised. The government now owns just over half of telstra, but is selling it's remaining majority share this year. Telstra owns almost all of our PSTN network, including all exchanges. Under our competition regulatory body (ACCC), they are forced to wholesale the use of this PSTN (copper) network to everyone and anyone. As a result, ADSL is capped at speeds of 1.5Mbps/256Kbps. Telstra are hesitant to offer ADSL2+ (even though the necessary DSLAMS are installed in virtually all ADSL enabled exchanges) because they fear the ACCC will make them wholesale this.

Telstra don't have to wholesale access to their new HSDPA network, and they didn't have to for the CDMA network either. So I (and many others) believe that telstra will be investing heaps into this network, instead of persuing ADSL2+/fibre in the near future. Really though, the idea of having high speed broadband in excess of 10Mbps, accessible from almost anywhere in our country, in a year or two, is pretty exciting. It means you could take your broadband with you to work, on holidays, to your friends house, without having to pay anything extra!

but yeah, the news is good for US/Australian SE fans, as it's a good indication that SE will be persuing UMTS handsets using different spectrums.

[ This Message was edited by: red_xiv on 2006-10-07 09:00 ]
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Posted: 2006-10-07 09:52:42
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On 2006-10-07 07:30:32, Prom1 wrote:

STill you should celebrate. I'm betting on SE to start shipping UMTS/HSDPA models on the 850/1900mhz bands within 9 months = June 2007!



maybe even earlier than that...


April 12, 2006, 09:46 (CET)


Ericsson Mobile Platforms has successfully started deliveries of the U350 and U360 platforms, the smallest and most powerful HSDPA/EDGE platforms released for true mass-market deployment.


"The U350 and U360 platforms are the smallest and most powerful 3.6 Mbps HSDPA solutions on the market today," says Jörgen Lantto, vice president and head of Strategic Product Management at Ericsson Mobile Platforms. "With our solution, handset manufacturers will be able to integrate HSDPA capabilities in mass-market mobile phones."

The U350 and U360 are designed to facilitate true mass-market HSDPA volumes with a strong focus on size, cost and performance. The U350 is a quad-band EDGE and single-band HSDPA platform, whereas the U360 adds triple-band HSDPA capabilities.

Ericsson's (NASDAQ:ERICY) U350 and U360 platforms provide mobile handset manufacturers with a complete, verified system solution. The platforms offer a compact HSDPA solution with a range of high-performance multimedia features, such as QVGA display, 3D graphics and high-quality music capabilities.

Having sampled U350 and U360, Ericsson Mobile Platforms is now delivering reference designs to customers.

Lantto says: "Handset manufacturers using our existing solutions will be able to reuse existing application software and will be able to quickly integrate the HSDPA-enabled platforms into phones. We expect the first commercial phones using these platforms to be launched in early 2007."

http://www.ericsson.com/erics[....]eleases/20060412-1044877.shtml
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Posted: 2006-10-07 10:39:27
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We have HSDPA for a year already...
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Posted: 2006-10-07 11:00:55
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On 2006-10-07 11:00:55, 786KBR wrote:
We have HSDPA for a year already...

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Posted: 2006-10-07 13:24:00
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Guess that we will see more and more HSPA handsets multi-band capable in the future, though it is single band in the beginning. Impressed that Telstra migrated from cdma to HSDPA, and they have the freqency band same as N.America. The GSM/UMTS family is getting more stronger.

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Posted: 2006-10-07 16:38:42
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@senninha,

The U350 and U360 platforms are already 1.5years old. Its good that their still the most powerful, and smallest in the industry. Lets hope SE gets the first lot instead of Samsung/Panasonic.

@red_xiv; great info, looks like Telstra would be good to invest in with the upcoming auction of stocks IF its publicly available. I'm hoping here in Canada data pricing gets cheap as well.

> those from S. Africa claiming they had HSDPA for over 1 yr I claim BULL. Testing period should NEVER be included as part of a public offering. Most European countries JUST got their HSDPA roughly 10/12 months ago. EDGE even earlier than then. Show us links PROOF!

Besides being the earliest isnt always the most prudent choice. He who last laughs, remember this. Signal strength, data strength maximum in real world situations will ALL be crucial as time moves on.
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Posted: 2006-10-09 08:15:24
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