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why is that? edge is really a great feature, even nokia 6020 etc has got it, even those arent big hits imo whats up se?
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Posted: 2006-12-21 20:33:14
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I don't understand either. Apparently SE did not believe EDGE would be of any use. They seem wrong: edge is easy to deploy so in our country e.g all three operators have edge everywhere, wile 3G is limited to urban areas.
I've also been told that 3G transmissions consume a lot of battery power while edge doesn't, people on the move with a umts datacard plugged into their laptop sometimes disconnect just to preserve laptoppower...
What I also do not undersand is that the SE phones that have 3G do not have edge, while edge would make coverage much better and smoother...
Or did SE believe that edge would be installed (they should be the first to know since Ericsson is a network builder?) *but* not for use in mobilephones for ordinary consumers. It has little added value, so it seems; 3G allows for mobile radio, TV, videocalls, etc; a lot of services that edge is just not fast enough for.
But edge is fast enough for business applications, so gprs/edge/umts datacards are plenty and I believe that all those blackberries also have edge. Then I wonder why people don't use their mobiles as modem? The modem emulation is installed by default, and the new SE's are so easy to connect - pop out cable, plug in mobile & in usb port and pronto, fast internet access - why bother with seperate cards?
Well more questions than answers I'm afraid.

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Posted: 2006-12-21 21:00:15
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Why include EDGE when 3G is available? If most European networks use 3G, and many other networks are implementing it then why incur extra cost by including EDGE?
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Posted: 2006-12-21 21:03:29
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@scotty nice to see u

for example is austria edge isnt offered and 3g is just in ca 10% in the whole county. in hungary edge is almost everywhere, 3g in just bigger cities and in some area. edge is almost the same at data transfer then 3g.
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Posted: 2006-12-21 21:13:03
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Cingular, in US has EDGE...
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Posted: 2006-12-22 06:39:46
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its not true that edge hav same speed than 3G. edge is 2g feature.(2.75g- enhanced gprs).it gives a speed of 60-70 kbps. 3G is totally different.350plus kbps.

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Posted: 2006-12-22 08:09:45
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The most important difference in speed is the upload; 3G has upload fast enough to use video upstream. Probably the ooperators/manufacturers want a large 'installed base'.
Also edge is not fast enough (in perception, because faster is possible) to allow for an important increase in price.
Operators have spent huge amounts of money in 3G licences and prefer to make money out of that rather than see a lot of customersstick with edge or gprs.
More and more the handset makers follow the wishes of the operators --- but that doesn't explain why Nokia has more edge sets.
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Posted: 2006-12-22 08:47:50
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I didnt wrote its the same,just almost.

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Posted: 2006-12-22 08:48:52
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On 2006-12-21 21:13:03, BobaFett wrote:
@scotty nice to see u

for example is austria edge isnt offered and 3g is just in ca 10% in the whole county. in hungary edge is almost everywhere, 3g in just bigger cities and in some area. edge is almost the same at data transfer then 3g.



Austria is a relatively small market though. In terms of the overall European picture, which is arguably SE's most important market, 3G is widely available, and increasing all the time.
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Posted: 2006-12-22 08:51:52
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On 2006-12-21 21:03:29, scotsboyuk wrote:
Why include EDGE when 3G is available? If most European networks use 3G, and many other networks are implementing it then why incur extra cost by including EDGE?



I started a thread like this a while back, and soon after introduced the W810 with edge so they listened.

Our networks have all the data carriers availabe, GPRS, EDGE, 3G and HSDPA.

EDGE is needed IMO, when 3G drops data would rather use EDGE at 180kb/s than 34kb/s GPRS.
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Posted: 2006-12-22 09:21:27
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