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Sony Ericsson K800i : Far from being a "perfect" phone!
14 good reasons of NOT buying it
I own a (Vodafone branded) Sony Ericsson K800i for about 4 months.
As a phone might be OK but its menu (typical Sony Ericsson) is far from being "perfect". I use the phone daily and I have found some disadvantages. Just think about them before buying it to make sure they suit yourself.
These "little" disadvantages (or annoyances) could probably upset you or can make your daily living with the phone a bit frustrating!
Sometimes the phone's functioning gives me the impression that the people who designed it have never used or tried the phone afterwards! This explains why Nokia phones simply rule the market!
Let's see now what these "annoyances" (or "14 good reasons of NOT buying it") are:
1) The Calendar reminder tone is very short, poor, weak, hardly audible and cannot be changed (either as a tone or volume). 99.9% you will miss the time when the reminder goes off, and 99.9% you will miss that important meeting or task you have set the phone to remind you about.
2) The Sony PC Suite is a worthless, primitive and useless program. I am surprised why SE insists on distributing it (especially if you compare it to other vendors' PC suites, e.g. Nokia). It does not give you even the possibility to backup your SIM/phone contacts in a file on your PC. It can only transfer your contacts to Outlook. But even if you use Outlook Sync to do that, the program has a lot of bugs and it will surely miss to transfer some of your phone numbers, i.e. some of your numbers won't download/upload correctly. This has happened to me. I have >500 contacts with each one having more than 2 phone numbers stored in it. The program only transfers most of the time only 2 of the phone numbers (under the same contact. The 3rd and 4th numbers are lost and you have to type them manually!. You have to use 3rd party programs (i.e. MyPhoneExplorer) to do it correctly and safely. I am surprised as to why a SE person had had not noticed this! ARE THEY USING THEIR PHONES?
3) The "image stabiliser" in the camera works only with the "landscape" and "twilight landscape" scenes. All other camera scenes do not support the image stabiliser!
4) In each contact you can store up to 5 numbers (mobile, home, work, fax, other), but IT DOES NOT give you the possibility to name more than one number under the same type, e.g. to have 3 mobiles, or 2 home, etc.
5) When composing an SMS, it does not countdown (from 160) the remaining characters. Only when you reach 140 characters it starts countdowning the remaining characters.
6) I does not store delivery reports on SMS. You have to go to the "status" of the message to check if it has been delivered. There is however a pop-up screen that the message has been delivered. But it does not store this message delivery report. You have to check one by one the status of each sent message to see if it has been delivered or not.
7) Fast dialing needs the pressing of 2 buttons (one for the keypad number and one for the "call"), i.e. you cannot press-and-hold a keypad number to make a fast-dialing call.
The keypad is very-very stiff and it needs hard and accurate pressure on each button. The buttons are not well spaced and they are very close together. You cannot type very fast. If you try to type fast then you will surely make a lot of mistakes by typing the wrong keys! At night (or day), you can hardly identify or distinguish the keypad buttons by just touching at them while not looking at them. You have to always look at them to avoid typing errors!
9) The video quality is awfull. This is because the phone does not have a graphics card. Do not bother at all about the video feature. It's not worth it!
10) No option to change the ISO setting in the camera. Picture quality at night is poor. The camera raises automatically to ISO 400 in all night pictures producing very noisy images. And there is no way to change the ISO to a number lower than 400! Daylight pictures are good though (ISO 80).
11) Assume you have a contact stored in your phone memory. And under this contact you have stored more than 2 mobile phone nummbers. If this contact sends you a SMS then there is NO WAY to see which mobile number (from the two) sent you this SMS. The phone identifies and displays only the name of the contact that sent you the SMS and NOT the associated phone number. There is NO information about the phone number that your contact used to send you the message.
12) Assume you compose a SMS and then you send it to someone. After you press the button to send the message the phone does not return you to the screen of the composed message. This is very annoying in case you want to send this same message to someone else(s). You have to go to the main menu and then to Messaging>Sent Messages to find the message you already sent in order to be able to send it again to someone else.
13) The joystick started presenting problems with just only two months of use! The down direction needs hard pressure to be activated. If you apply light pressure (clicking sound heard) the joystick does not function as it is supposed to do!
14) It is a cumbersome procedure and it takes too many clicks to change an already stored phone number in one of your contacts.
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Posted: 2007-02-12 22:45:42
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u have some really good point, i have to admit, but if u dont like it, why did u keep it so long?
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Posted: 2007-02-12 22:49:17
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Most of the things you list either dont affect my usage of the phone or dont really bother me.
1) I dont use the calendar
2) PC Suite works fine for me and does what I need it too.
3) I agree on the image stabilizer. Why could they have not put it on all scenes?
4) Never really thought about but I supose you are right.
5) Doesnt really bother me.
6) I prefere it that way. When i had a Nokia I got fed up with deleting delivery reports all the time.
7) Thats more of a saefty so you dont atomatically dial a number without noticing.
8 ) The keypad on mine is fine. I dont have any problems typing texts, the buttons work first press every time.
9) I agree on the video quality when recording even though I have never taken a video on my phone.
Watching videos is fine for me.
10) Night pictures arent too bad on mine. Have you tried using the flash?
11) Cant comment on that one as nobody in my phone book has two mobile numbers.
12) Select two people to send it too in the first place, you dont have to send one and then go back to send it again to someone else. I would find it annoying if it went back to the enter text area.
13) after 7 months my joystick is still ok.
14) Not really noticed as I normally edit numbers using outlook and then sync the phonebook.
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Posted: 2007-02-12 23:02:51
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You can't really compare vodafone crap with a real k800i.. (i know since i had bouth)
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Posted: 2007-02-12 23:04:09
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@chris - Nice thoughts mate ! How I wish that you manage to POST this during the EARLY release of the K800i, so that POTENTIAL buyers will have an IDEA or perhaps, will have second-thoughts buying one . . . but at the PRICE it is selling now . . . almost HALF during it's INITIAL release . . . I will still be gettin' me - ONE
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Posted: 2007-02-12 23:04:11
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I've had K800i and it was the best SE phone I have had. I have replaced it with P990i recently (just to upgrade to something with WiFi) and still very happy with the phone and its features. K800i has a great camera. You can have a look at my pictures taken with K800i. Great VERY Bright screen!
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Posted: 2007-02-12 23:36:01
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how many ppl have been with their k800 and have had probs like you. they just try to look some way of fixing it. now, if you are not satisfied with yours, why on earth you kept it so long. if i notice a phone is giving me problems since the beginning, i would have took it back.
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Posted: 2007-02-12 23:39:01
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Hahahahah....
I love how you explain your feelings...
Let's see...
1) Hey I never miss one! It just great organizer not the best but a great one.
2) It's a standard application, if you do not like it don't use it. How often did u use MS Paint to draw/edit a picture???
3) Why bother activating image stabilizer? well, except if you cannot stop your hand 'shaking'. The camera is the best in its class man! The images is great.
4) It just icon!!! use it as your please...
5) When you type sms did you always look how many letters have you typed? Puulliiizzz...
6) I'm glad for that. Im tired to delete reports after 'send to many'
7) I prefer it that way
the keypad is great!! what's with your fingers?
9) I agree about the vid quality. Hey its camera phone! go for N93i if you want vid phone.
10) How many people know how to use ISO?? this phone provide flash for night shot. You can compare it with N73's ISO settings for nite shot.
11) When you click softkey 'More' you can see the icon number on the first list. Explore your phone man!
12) Why dont use 'Mark several' on 'Contact look up'? --> send to many
13) Yeah I agree about the joystick. but I dont use it often. the menu are mapped the same with keypad (It saves time). try it.
14) Here's a tips. type the number on desktop, and save it (overwriting an already exist number on contacts)! done!.
Bro, you should explore your phone. Don't just whining.
This is by far the best Phone in value and performance.
I thought you would comment its limitations... y'know the symbian things
but java os is not that bad... its a lot faster...
no offense 4 all
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Posted: 2007-02-13 02:25:27
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I've read all your points; most of them could make sense to you, but not to me. except for one; one that I agree %100 with you. the 13th point, about the joystick,
THE FREAKING JOYSTICK, something that
should drop if they can't improve. now, only a pesky, unresponsive joystick doesn't make me feel like changing the phone but sometimes it does make me feel like smashing it. it won't happen, though. not really.
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Posted: 2007-02-13 04:51:39
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Residentevil Posts: > 500
Give it to him friends.
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Posted: 2007-02-13 05:39:23
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