News Forum Phone database

> New Topic
> Reply
< Esato Forum Index > General discussions > Non mobile discussion > Top five reasons on why you shouldn’t get Vista Bookmark topic

You already have XP, and alternatives like Linux are free. If you really want to throw money away, go give it to a local charity

Vista doesn’t do anything you can’t already do with XP. About the only significant shift requiring Vista is DirextX10, but as no titles support it yet and, according to John Carmack (the godfather of modern gaming) there’s no need to yet either

If you have an older machine that struggles with XP at the best of times, Vista is out of your ballpark unless you spend even more money to upgrade.

These include anti-virus, backup and security software such as those from Symantec, Sophos and ilk; CD and DVD burning tools like the suite from Nero need updated versions to work; and even basic disk management and partitioning tools such as Paragon’s Hard Disk Manager are awaiting an update for Vista to be compatible.

Key hardware like video and sound is crippled at the moment while Nvidia is working furiously to get a stable driver for the 8800 out by the 30th, there’s still no SLI support for any of the Nvidia range. And thanks to the removal of hardware accelerated 3D sound in Vista, Creative’s popular DirectSound based EAX no longer works at all.

source


--
Posted: 2007-02-21 19:31:48
Edit : Quote


Thanks - now I can confidently by oswald's window(S) INSTEAD! thought so... Always good to wait and then some...
--
Posted: 2007-02-21 19:40:05
Edit : Quote


why use nero when there are better progs, why use nvidia when you have ATI???

The sound on my vista pc is better now than on xp and that is also in games.



--
Posted: 2007-02-21 19:55:45
Edit : Quote


Don't forget THIS aswell.
--
Posted: 2007-02-21 20:06:20
Edit : Quote


Just wait a year or so, then it will be ok.
--
Posted: 2007-02-21 20:08:01
Edit : Quote


no comment about people like that dud in that video.. Vista works 110% perfect at my end.

over and out
--
Posted: 2007-02-21 20:18:22
Edit : Quote


Vista Ultimate works great on my machine aswell no probs!
however the updates take ages to install and download 2 hours each time only had 25 to install

Ps, Nero does work with Vista (NERO RELOADED)
thats the vista version..........

ive got it
--
Posted: 2007-02-22 01:40:49
Edit : Quote


W00t FUD..

Quote:
You already have XP, and alternatives like Linux are free. If you really want to throw money away, go give it to a local charity

Vista doesn’t do anything you can’t already do with XP. About the only significant shift requiring Vista is DirextX10, but as no titles support it yet and, according to John Carmack (the godfather of modern gaming) there’s no need to yet either


Wouldn't getting linux negate ANY argument for buying an OS? Mac, Windows, anything? why bother buying any upgrades. Seriously.. Vista also includes native ipV6 which although hardly used is at least another feature finally built in. No titles yet for Dx10 but there will be and already announced games will be. The difference is, are you upgrading because you want to be bleeding edge or just because you want to?

If I listened to John Carmack back in the day I'd also not believed an Amiga would be able to have FPS games like doom. Despite the fact the sprites for doom was drawn on Amiga's in Deluxe paint.

Quote:
If you have an older machine that struggles with XP at the best of times, Vista is out of your ballpark unless you spend even more money to upgrade.


Again debatable, we just replaced our test machine which is a p3 dual processor (1 gig cpu's if i recall) slot 1 machine, gig of ram, and isn't wonderful, but its running vista fine with aero turned off. Aero is the main thing that causes the OS requirements to be high.

Quote:
These include anti-virus, backup and security software such as those from Symantec, Sophos and ilk; CD and DVD burning tools like the suite from Nero need updated versions to work; and even basic disk management and partitioning tools such as Paragon’s Hard Disk Manager are awaiting an update for Vista to be compatible.


AV is already available, CD and Burning software, again even free software runs fine under vista, one thing that may require updates is software specifically for 64bit. Hell I use daemon tools and host of free XP programs on this Vista ultimate machine absolutely fine. Basic disk management is already included in the OS, if third party software isn't working, that's a third party fault, not the OS manufacturer, kinda important to understand the difference.

Quote:
Key hardware like video and sound is crippled at the moment while Nvidia is working furiously to get a stable driver for the 8800 out by the 30th, there’s still no SLI support for any of the Nvidia range. And thanks to the removal of hardware accelerated 3D sound in Vista, Creative’s popular DirectSound based EAX no longer works at all.


Sound is NOT crippled, it works fine, EAX is the issue. Creative are already in the process if they haven't already released their X-fi drivers with eax support for vista. Other soundcards, well unless they do the same or are OpenAL compatible (Something thats been about for a while btw, which not alot hell if any soundcard manufacturers have bothered to adopt) may have some problems using environmental audio. (EG EAX options maybe disabled or sound may revert to stereo sound..)

Video is right, SLI isn't implement yet by nvidia (Unsure about ATI) but again THIRD party manufacturer. How long was vista in beta? How long did nvidia have to make it work? Makes you wonder right? Beta drivers, 100.59 have been released that are supposed to enable SLI on 6 & 7 series nvidia cards but only reportedly works with 8 Series cards.

Seriously, using vista isn't the dramatic experience everyone makes out to be, but with a little configuring, it's not the nightmare people make it out to be either.

Same caveat applies to vista that applies to XP, if you don't need to upgrade, don't bother until the first service pack comes out.

Mind you I'm only mildly impressed with Vista currently, it's not a bad step either, but it took me a while to get into XP too. (Which btw when it came out was worse for gaming too)
--
Posted: 2007-02-22 02:46:04
Edit : Quote

---

New Topic   Reply

Forum Index