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hello everyone,
i have read all topics and replies about the problems of the latest P series p990.We all know that the major problem is due to the lack of RAM as this is caused by the processor model(ARM) and C drive which is(NAND)which eat the most of ram to open the apps and the operation's processes.but i have noticed that other brands like nokia(takes the first place in mobile market)has the same issues and maybe more and i will show you how:
my sister bought N73 5 months ago,so i took it from her and i updated it to the latest firmware so after updating it i explored for her the phone(no apps are downloaded yet)so i took a picture by camera and went to see it in gallary so when i zoom it the phone said NOT ENOUGH MEMORY PLEASE CLOSE SOME APPLICATIONS but no applications were running in background so i was shocked.she returned it and bought three more later and the same problems appeared(not only in zooming the images),so at last she bought the good reputation mobile(N93)but she was also shocked due to its lack of ram even after nokia has put more 5mb ram,so she returned it and went back to her 6260.
i just want you to see the i-mate forums and other brands forums and you will see that not only SE has this problems but maybe has the less problems than others,on these results i bought my p990 and believe me it is the best choice just like my previous choices like SE T310 and nokia 6600..
i know my topic was so long but i just want to make clear about the new smartphones facts.

NOTICE:i do not use swiss manager as i did not see the use of it after the latest update. and small tip,when you restart your phone go to more then status and you will see let's say 16.1 of ram,press back and DO NOT open any app or open the flip or enter to main menu,wait until the phone goes to sleep mode "wait"and then go to more>status and you will discover that you have gain 1MB of ram more.
hope this was useful.


regards,

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[ This Message was edited by: al_1982a on 2007-04-01 04:28 ]

[ This Message was edited by: al_1982a on 2007-04-01 04:45 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-01 05:21:00
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As I could see the new E90 is the first smart phone (communicator) that have enough memory and great multitasking capacity. Unfortunately its look and size dont fit my taste, but anyway it is good to see progres which will for sure be followed by other models.
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Posted: 2007-04-01 08:11:26
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@al_1982a

Good post! I have suspected this for a while as I have heard from owners of other smartphones (mostly Nokia N-series) that they have have problems with the phone is shutting down. So maybe in the end the P990 is the best smartphone out there. I for one is happy with mine. It has been very stable the last two months.

[ This Message was edited by: Osmano on 2007-04-01 07:34 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-01 08:33:01
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Hmmm... the P910i, a 3 year old smartphone, already proves to be the best multitasking smartphone $$$ can buy for some time already. One can fully utilise (not just starting up) more than 20 internal plus 3rd party applications and leave them running in the background without the need for the OS to kill off anything. The P910i only needs to be rebooted about once a month or even longer depending on how hard one thrashes at it.

On a P910i, a user can have BB, Exchange Active Sync (via RoadSync) and even OneBrige mobile email all being installed and have the capability of running all 3 at the same time simultaneously too.

Hence, it is not entirely correct to say that the E90 is the first multitasking smartphone, and this is precisely the reason why so many P910i owners blamed SE for releasing the P990i cos it truly lacks behind the P910i by a whole lot in terms of multitasking capabilities.

As for NK, well, N73 and lower end smartphones costs only about 1/2 the price of P990i. As with S60 3rd edition devices and also most Windows Mobile 5 devices, the lack of RAM memory has been made up with a superior processor, running at between 220Mhz - 520Mhz as compared to P990i's 208Mhz...


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Posted: 2007-04-01 08:57:05
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True, I had P910 and know how good it was in that field. But new, more advanced features are introduced so, in this I would say new generation, E90 is the first one to end memory problem story.
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Posted: 2007-04-01 09:15:24
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But koto, the P990i is supposed to be an upgraded model for P910i, hence it has been mentioned many times that of all companies, SE should be the first to know about the importance of multitasking on smartphones, due to their experiences and lessons learnt over the past 4 - 5 years with P800-->P900-->P910i and then P990i.

I've mentioned before in the past, that we do not see P910i falling behind P900 in any aspect of its features and usability, nor do we see P900 falling behind P800 too. Hence, we have all come to expect that the P990i should be much better than even the P910i in terms of all its features, including the very important multitasking feature. But sadly, SE seems to like to follow NK and give us all a huge surprise that it failed horribly in this aspect of the phone's feature, making it, being a flagship P series model, for people to compare it against the likes of lower end models like N73, which is only 1/2 its price point to say the least...

If SE gives us a 330Mhz TI OMAP to be paired with all the hardware Audio/Movie decoder it already have in the P, M and W950i series, then perhaps the complains will not be so great cos the faster processor speed will help a lot for starting up and executing applications that have been closed by the OS when the memory gets low. Again, sadly, this is not the case cos all we have is the slowest processor speed of 208Mhz compared against today's 3G enabled smartphones.
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Posted: 2007-04-01 14:07:11
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SE could take a lesson from Palm here. The highly unstable Treo phones are finally getting stable, thanks to more than doubling the internal system memory. Palm moves woefully slow doing anything, and they've not yet completely solved the instabiltiy problems, but they've gone a long way and are on the right track. SE should bump up the RAM on the P990 to 256 MB total, reserving at least 128 MB for the system, maybe even more. This is their flagship smartphone. i-Mate is doing exactly that.

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[ This Message was edited by: rambo47 on 2007-04-01 14:26 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-01 15:23:10
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What I do with my P990 I could only dream of with P910. So for me even with its limited multitasking capacity I do far more than with P910, simply not comparable. But yes SE made a mountain mistake and now pays the price of its stupidity - deserved in every sense.
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Posted: 2007-04-01 16:11:41
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use my P990 for 3 month....from R7 to R9EC001 and must say with last firmware I am happy....

no reset or any critical bug in last firmware....all things work very well and phones have 17.2 mb ram in startup without using SM ( if use that and reclaim level 3 it has 19.5 mb in startup)

this is good...
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Posted: 2007-04-01 16:20:38
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guys we should not compare between p990 and p910 as there are a huge diffrences between both, and i'm sure if p910 has the features of p990 it will be a slow and call it the machine of restarts!!
and about the multitasking issue i have no problem as i use web and agile and lesten to radio at the same time i do not use vigay golf when surfing the net!and i wont open word document while jogging!who needs to open more than 4 tasks or apps at the same time?
i will post a picture show you that i can open 10 tasks in my p990 but it is useless as a matter of fact i only use maximumly 4 of them at the same time.


regards,

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[ This Message was edited by: al_1982a on 2007-04-01 16:00 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-01 16:54:00
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