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willo Posts: 163

Not a good idea:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/6565079.stm
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Posted: 2007-04-18 08:34:53
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Nitro Fan Posts: > 500

that will teach the creep to steal
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Posted: 2007-04-18 11:03:09
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Tail Posts: > 500

Well, no more than right
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Posted: 2007-04-18 11:09:40
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masseur Posts: > 500

for reference, this relates to the communication act 2003

specifically section 125 which says:-


125 Dishonestly obtaining electronic communications services

(1) A person who-

(a) dishonestly obtains an electronic communications service, and
(b) does so with intent to avoid payment of a charge applicable to the provision of that service, is guilty of an offence.

(2) It is not an offence under this section to obtain a service mentioned in section 297(1) of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (c. 48) (dishonestly obtaining a broadcasting or cable programme service provided from a place in the UK).

(3) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable-

(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both;
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to a fine, or to both.


interestingly, the next section says:-


126 Possession or supply of apparatus etc. for contravening s. 125

(1) A person is guilty of an offence if, with an intention falling within subsection (3), he has in his possession or under his control anything that may be used-

(a) for obtaining an electronic communications service; or
(b) in connection with obtaining such a service.

(2) A person is guilty of an offence if-

(a) he supplies or offers to supply anything which may be used as mentioned in subsection (1); and
(b) he knows or believes that the intentions in relation to that thing of the person to whom it is supplied or offered fall within subsection (3).

(3) A person's intentions fall within this subsection if he intends-

(a) to use the thing to obtain an electronic communications service dishonestly;
(b) to use the thing for a purpose connected with the dishonest obtaining of such a service;
(c) dishonestly to allow the thing to be used to obtain such a service; or
(d) to allow the thing to be used for a purpose connected with the dishonest obtaining of such a service.

(4) An intention does not fall within subsection (3) if it relates exclusively to the obtaining of a service mentioned in section 297(1) of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (c. 48).

(5) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable-

(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both; and
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to a fine, or to both.

(6) In this section, references, in the case of a thing used for recording data, to the use of that thing include references to the use of data recorded by it.


and I think most of us have or do fall into quite a bit of that
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Posted: 2007-04-18 11:10:51
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michael the mage Posts: > 500

What a rubbish. That's even worse then here in the US of A.
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Posted: 2007-04-18 15:47:17
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ronis Posts: 19

What a crap!
If you don't want anyone to connect to your WLAN, make it secured one and/or restrict MAC addresses able to connect.
If you haven't done that, then don't complain when someone connects to your WiFi.

[ This Message was edited by: ronis on 2007-04-18 18:02 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-18 19:01:44
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suland Posts: 122

I wonder how they(police) proved that the guy used "someone's" WI-FI. What a crap!!! If you don't want this happened to your WI-FI - secure it.
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Posted: 2007-04-18 19:30:40
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awave Posts: > 500


On 2007-04-18 19:30:40, suland wrote:
I wonder how they(police) proved that the guy used "someone's" WI-FI. What a crap!!! If you don't want this happened to your WI-FI - secure it.


Yup, what i'd say. If you leave it unsecured I'd say that that was enough as giving someone permission to use the internet access through that AP. edit: just read the news thing. actually hacking someone's network / sitting outside someones house etc etc - that's just plain wrong. If it happens to be there when your trying to do something that just needs the 'net access for something small etc then I don't really see why people should complain.

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[ This Message was edited by: awave on 2007-04-18 19:09 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-18 20:07:22
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masseur Posts: > 500

um, so if any of you leave your car unlocked thats as good as giving someone permission to take it?

and can we assume you all know everything about everything unlike the man in the street who just wants wifi broadband and doesn't know much about technology? I mean I don't know how a fridge or washing machine work but I still use them! (well, perhaps not a washing mashing machine!)

I think its fair enough if someone is paying for something then others should not use it, no matter what it is, without express permission
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Posted: 2007-04-18 20:18:10
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BobaFett Posts: > 500

i dont wanna live ain a police state, where even using someone else's wifi is a crime. ppl should lock it, if i am in places, i usually serach for free connections. its not my "bad behaviour", more their stupidity not to lock it
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Posted: 2007-04-18 20:24:04
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