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More official bad news from SE. There will be no possibility for developers to adress the built-in camera on the P800. What that means: there will be no way to write software that turns the P800 into a videocamera or webcam, surveillance camera or whatever. SE say that there is a risk that hackers use the camera to spy on people, so they don't provide the API (tools) to work with the camera. Ridiculous. The camera in Nokia 7650 is freely available to developers. If hackers decide what honest developers can do, we live in a reversed world.
From the SE Developers Forum, this was posted by SE Develepor Support people:
"For this product it was decided to not disclose a native camera API towards third party developers.
One concern can be that the existing internal API's are not suitable for exposure (no pun intended) towards third parties and would require an abstraction layer for acceptable robustness. A public API needs to be concise, well documented and robust.
There are also considerable security/integrity issues associated with disclosing a public camera API. Image capture is a powerful capability in a Internet connected device and could easily be abused by malicious applications without end user awareness.
Someone assessing risks could say that the immediate availability of network connectivity in combination with image capture is a sitting duck waiting for those rogue apps to strike. Of course for a developer it is a very exciting feature to play with.
In case of the P800 the camera feature is available to end users through the integrated native 'Communicam' application."
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Posted: 2002-12-05 11:28:00
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very bad news
i still hope that someone will be able to make a video program for the P800
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Posted: 2002-12-05 11:37:00
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Although the resolution would be poor, I know it would be possible to 'record' the image as it appears on the screen, as in a constant screen capture. And I'm also pretty sure that although a bit of hacking through the system may be needed, it would be possible for one to make a video capture app through the camara aswell...
[ This Message was edited by: jamiescott on 2002-12-05 11:32 ]
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:31:00
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I agree with DmX, VERY sad!!
The "statement" from SE sounds ridiculous...! If you let people take regular photos, why not let them record videos?
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:33:00
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You must know how hackers think. Be a hacker and you will know. (Sorry I am not the one
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P.S.
They break the rules.
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:39:00
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Ooooooh this is bad, bad, bad news.
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:43:00
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This is the lamest statement by SE i hope they change their mind ! Maybe a group peticion will help they cant do this to us just aint fair !
This post was posted from a R520
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Posted: 2002-12-05 13:06:00
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Believe that the quoted text below could be the real reason. The API is not stable enough to be published. The second claim is also valid, but perhaps discussed in the statement to give more weight to the decision to leave the API out (maybe for now).
But think of it -- a simple native app that you get, could snap your P800 memory full of pictures and then your phone is dead. Heard of the 7650 freeze when memory fills? Or some software secretly takes pictures and sends them through GPRS somewhere. Someone somewhere already disussed this, don't rememebr where.
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"For this product it was decided to not disclose a native camera API towards third party developers.
One concern can be that the existing internal API's are not suitable for exposure (no pun intended) towards third parties and would require an abstraction layer for acceptable robustness. A public API needs to be concise, well documented and robust.
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Posted: 2002-12-05 13:13:00
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For years Hackers have been trying to perfect the technique of pin-pointing the placement of a mobile phone whilst keeping the line open, If you have a videophone and a fully open OS, hackers could do the same with mobile phones as they can with your home PC, I used to often have a peek through the eye of strangers webcam's, but I was merely playing at being a hacker, not actually doing any harm, although I do think I freaked out a few peeps. If a hacker knows someone's number and can see through there phone, oh and by the way, so you realise the real danger, these days most countries Mafia's have as many Hackers on their side as they do Thugs.
God bless you Vladmir Levin, and you Captin Crunch. We will forget you not!!
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Posted: 2002-12-05 13:51:00
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but thanks to hackers there willl be a little hacker somewhere who will probably find a way to do it anyway!!!!
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Posted: 2002-12-05 14:10:00
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