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Information about all landline and mobile phone calls made in the UK must be logged and stored for a year under new laws.
Data about calls made and received will also be available to 652 public bodies, including the police and councils.
The Home Office said the content of calls and texts would not be read and insisted the move was vital to tackle serious crime and terrorism.
But critics said it was another example of Britain's "surveillance society".
Shami Chakrabarti, director of civil rights group Liberty, said people were more concerned than ever about their personal privacy, especially how many bodies had access to their phone records.
"There are actually a very broad range of purposes for which this information about who we've been phoning and when can be revealed," Ms Chakrabarti said.
"It includes, for example, the Gaming Board, the Food Standards Authority and every district and county council in the country."
She said requests for information would not be limited to those concerning serious crime and national security.
"We're talking about a profile that can be built of your personal relationships on the basis of who you've been speaking to and when."
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Any thoughts on this? Will it genuinely help to solve serious crime or is it yet another avenue for spammers and cold callers to explore? Personally, I think this is one more step towards turning the British legal ideology of 'innocent until proven guilty' into 'Guilty until proven innocent'.
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Posted: 2007-10-01 13:56:47
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"Police files hold the DNA of more than 50,000 children who have committed no offence. And that's only the tip of the iceberg - Britain now has the largest DNA database in the world"....
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article362543.ece
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Posted: 2007-10-01 14:13:13
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thank god for blackberry and emails then..
although I hear there are plans to log them too..
GRRRRR
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Posted: 2007-10-01 14:13:28
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its all Big Brother, you should see all the numberplate recognition systems in london now and thats not including the congestion charge zone!
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Posted: 2007-10-01 14:28:41
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The bit I don't get is that if you were planning a robbery or such like, surely you wouldn't use a mobile that is registered to your name and address? Let's face it, when you register a PAYG SIM you could tell them any old name and address from the BT phonebook. As long as the postcode matches the street address, you won't arouse suspicion.
So the police can look at the records all they like. They won't find you or anybody you contacted because you're all working under false names and addresses and, after you've done the robbery, you obviously dispose of the phones properly.
Anybody who's stupid enough to get caught in this way would probably be stupid enough to get caught by much simpler means, rendering the logging of calls and texts pointless.
India has the right idea. When you buy a SIM, you have to provide two passport photographs and photocopies of your ID such as passport, drivers license etc. Simple and effective!
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Posted: 2007-10-01 14:29:12
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Or just be really clever cyco and buy an Orange sim that doesn't need registering to anybody....
I just hope they don't store MMS messages!!!
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Posted: 2007-10-01 14:51:19
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Here we go again
, like all such matters, if your a decent, law abiding citizen then it's nowt to worry about, i wish they had high def CCTV cameras on EVERY street, then perhaps all the muggers, vandals, rapists, drug dealers etc might think twice!!
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Posted: 2007-10-01 14:55:55
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I think its very naive for most people to not fully understand that most if not all types of communication is logged, the "echelon" system was brought about for this very purpose under the guise of military use, "counter industrial espionage" is a more likely scenario. there are a lots of conspiracy theories about this but coupled with the "lack" of any serious data encryption on mobile communication it would not be too hard to "eavesdrop" on anything. I remember reading a while ago how the european governments prevented the major mobile manufacturers enabling proper data encryption on present and future mobile phones as this would seriously hinder any attempt at what is being proposed now. What was shown in the latest "bourne" film of keyword searching is very very real, and although its often done under the guise of counter terrorism its blanket coverage can only lead to exploitation by other parties.
Keep the population scared and on edge for long enough and any policy can be installed, it doesnt happen overnight but by the time we wake up to it it will be too late to reverse
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Posted: 2007-10-01 15:02:23
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ineed your probably right!
we all should use keywords in every conversation we make on the phone!
"hi my nuclear friend. how are you on this bomb of a day! did you manage to murder that new Xbox game? i'm hoping to have an explosive weekend..." Etc etc
sure its the same with forums too, it'll probably flag this post up seconds after i post it
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Posted: 2007-10-01 15:50:47
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The world has gone mad!
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Posted: 2007-10-01 15:55:37
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