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I had a new p1 for a few months, and loved it. Then it was stolen and im quite sad. im in turkey and doubt very much the cops will come up with anything at all. also i found out my supplemental insurance i purchased is quite worthless, covering nothing at all especially theft. i will sell the insurance (its on a card for 500 dollars and 4 years and i havent activated it yet anyway) and purchase a new phone with a REAL insurance plan that covers accidents and theft etc.

First of all, any recomendations on the plan? Best deals, best coverage, etc, i want theft and accidents, international etc.

Next, im deciding between another p1 and a n82

I live in the USA but expect to be traveling a bit over the next few years. I wasnt too concerned about the lack of edge on the p1 because i can save money by not having a real phone plan and using wlan for internet. But now I see that the n82 has edge as well as the new HSPDA.

Where all is this hspda that everyone is raving about? I take it that it is quite a good deal faster, but how are the rates for such high internet usage? I sadly dont know as much as i should about 3g stuff... If its going to cost too much i might as well stick to just prepaid sims and wlan. Anyone using a p1 in the USA just let me know how its working. I know that tmobile has decent coverage, so my plan was to just wait for the network to improve to see if the equivalant of EDGE that the p1 has (whats it called?) comes to the USA, and just using wlan and prepaid cards for communications...

Also, how is internet browsing on devices like the n82? It was great on the p1, you could type emails and search, click on links with the touch screen etc. Is that bit in the middle of the n82 a joystick type thing, or simply a middle button with four buttons around it? Theres no jog dial like on the p1, so what is the system for moving up and down and around the screen quickly, selecting new things, zooming etc.

How about typing? Is it simply the normal old t9 predictive text and nothing more? Might be good to have the n82 and be connected all the time to the internet back in the states, but i would want the p1 keyboard to chat and browse internet with!

Also it may seem silly, but ROM gaming is important. I got rid of my mp3 player, gameboy advance, etc to use this as an all in one. The p1 with plenty of buttons was good for this (applications still coming and still improving - gba one for instance still lacks the ability to code a button twice so you can use QW for up both and ZX for down both and AS for left right, letting you go diagnol easy.. but i told them)

How is this on the n82 with many fewer buttons? i suppose you could ignore diagnols and just do simple gaming.. what about the middle dial thing? or the ones next to it for connect and disconnect, are those two buttons each? etc.. dunno if anyone with a new n82 has even tried yet.

The camera is fairly important, and one reason i was considering the change. 5mp is important, but people have mentioned that sony cameras tend to be better than nokia? this true of fanboy talk? They seem to be about the same in specs... And the xenon flash would be nice.

And the memory slot expansion, I assume that both the p1 and the n82 will both be able to be upgraded to the maximum possible of 32gig when it comes out in a year or two?

have to scram for now thanks for any help and sorry for bad typing.. turkish keyboard and broken wrist

[ This Message was edited by: laffen on 2007-12-04 01:06 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-28 16:51:01
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Basically the P1i supports 3G. But that doesn't work in the USA, as the US chose to implement 3G on another frequency, so your P1i can't receive the 3G signals. So that means you're stuck on 2G, as the P1i doesn't support EDGE.

HSDPA is 3.5G, literally 10x faster than 3G. 3G supports up to 384kbps download (i think, someone confirm), whilst HSDPA can support up to 14.4Mbps when its fully deployed. I don't think USA even have it yet, and even if they do, again its probably on a frequency thats unique to the Americas.

the N82 supports 2G, EDGE, UTMS 2100 (3G), 3.5G. I think in the US you're topping out at EDGE. On the other hand, you're forced to downgrade to a 2G connection on the P1i, so I think you should get the N82.

In my opinion, there's more software, Wi-Fi g, faster speeds (if you travel out of America), 5 Megapixel camera, AND the 3.5mm slot. I think it's a better deal overall...
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Posted: 2007-11-28 17:09:54
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I agree. Unless you want the keyboard, the touchscreen, and copy&paste (and better battery- life) - it's the n82.
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Posted: 2007-11-28 19:41:43
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On a slightly other note:
Have you tried the IMEI - Cops and the Mobile Provider - the thieves could change the IMEI , but who knows - they might be dumb enough not to do so
P.s. 3G and especially HSDPA is a no no in the USA and will probably be for another year or two ...They are pretty slow over there


[ This Message was edited by: tesssst on 2007-11-28 18:51 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-28 19:49:59
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Yeah.. thats the thing is that i dıd quıte enjoy the keyboard of the p1, ıts just everythıng else that entıces me on the n82.. any actual expected dates for the p5? thats more close to what ı wanted heh..

so who has used a n82 or n95 etc and can comment on the web browsıng ease?

and you mentıoned software, ıs there a lot more for the n serıes symbıan than for uıq3? shouldnt ıt be a relatıvely easy port between?
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Posted: 2007-11-29 13:07:58
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asıde from waıtıng for the p5, wouldnt mınd the openmoko (when a cool stable model ıs out) or the google phone..
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Posted: 2007-11-29 13:19:01
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the P5i? Six months, a year? Anyway, s60 does have a lot more programs, and games. Not sure about whether the processor helps with the java- implementation that much, but the s60 devices definitively are faster and more responsive on some things because of the better processor. Stability, probably not too bad after the newer firmware.

On the porting - you would have to redo the coding process, so it's time- consuming (and boring). More developers are starting to set up duplicated coding trails, though.

But if you're worried about the programs and so on - look around, and find out what platforms have available what you think you need. And then it's easier to choose between what limitations you can live with. And I mean, it's not like one of these devices are superior to the others on everything.
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Posted: 2007-11-29 20:56:58
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just for the record we (usa) have had 3g/hsdpa for over a year now,although its 1900/800mhz. unfortunately ,if you want a smartphone that suports triband 3g you will have to go with windows mobile ( for example tytnll)
honestly though if you love the touch/keyboard etc of the p1 i would stay with that(cheaper to aprox 200.00) ive been using a m600i/p1i for the last year and a half in the us and i have no problems using ALL the features on the devises. activesync over 2g (24 7)and im always close to wifi if i need to stream/download large attachments, and web browsing. although the opera browser is good for browsing over 2g. also remember batterie life is longer on the p1.

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m600i> 4gig.m2/anycom bt edr.acesspoint
n800> 2x 8gig. sdhc

[ This Message was edited by: jortiz1200 on 2007-11-30 12:15 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-30 13:07:31
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yeah, actually speakıng of the tytn ii ı thınk ı am consıderıng goıng wıth that ınstead. a lıttle bıt less from the camera, no flash (but the non xenon flash ıs pretty poıntless anyway, ı can just not use ıt at nıght) bıgger keyboard etc.. touchscreen stıll..

a quıck q - does ıt have buılt ın gps or ıs thıs somethıng you add? also the servıces assocıated wıth usıng ıt, are those free, free for a year, etc?

ım goıng to post ın the wındows mobıle forum, but fıgure ı can ask here.. what are the advantages to dısatvantages? ı want skype and am tıred of waıtıng for ıt for uıq3, so thats one bonus.. ıll look ınto other apps and emulators etc.. any comments? anyone used both kaıser and the p1? ı thınk ıts a good optıon for US and travel wıth connectıvıty and has everythıng else ı want.. mıght even be better for emulators.. my maın questıon ıs swıtch to wındows mobıle
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Posted: 2007-11-30 13:21:09
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Get the N82, is far better than the P1.
better processor, better battery, better software library
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Posted: 2007-12-03 19:22:44
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