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Hlcn Twst Posts: > 500

Yup, I'm back. For real this time

Like a bad cold, you can't shake me

After several months with a Nokia E50, I learned a bit of aggravation.

S60 is a lot like Windows 3.1 from the early 1990s. This is not a good thing.
S60 sucks at basic mobile telephony. Messaging was a sluggish pain. T9 was non-intuitive and handled non-alphanumeric characters poorly. I hated the single-list disorganized contacts; later

phones, with their tabbed approach to contacts management, is wayyyy better. And voice dialing just never worked.
If S60 is so great for its available applications, why is most of what I need available as J2ME? (Sometimes ONLY as J2ME!)
And BTW, S60's J2ME performance sucks.
There are worse joysticks than those made by

. Believe it or not.
When zapped by the AllSpark, Nokias turn evil

Overall, S60 made me realize that I really don't need a "smart" phone. Smart telephony sacrifices too much of basic telephony, which I need more than anything else. I can live without a full-blown calendar; WAP is all the on-the-go Internet access I need (and all that is practical on a phone); and the only apps I really use are Google Maps and MobiMate's WorldMate.

That leaves feature phones. I've sampled Nokia's S40 platform and disliked it. Motorola isn't even worth mentioning; - and now that they're abandoning the PC SyncML standard, they're even less desirable. Add in Mac OS X iSync compatibility - and

is the clear choice. Especially now that they're offering more phones with the NA-needed 850 MHz band.

OTOH, my past W810i left a bad taste in my mouth regarding

models. For portable music, I'm sticking with the iPod, for reasons I've written numerous times in past threads. Let's leave it at that.

But the rest of the

range has treated me well. I did have a bad experience with my S710a, but I'm apparently an isolated case. I've sourced another one NIB from eBay; let's see how that does. If nothing else, it'll be a nice piece of mobile phone history

So the plan is to stick with camera- and design-phones. I have my trusty T637 right now. The S710a is on the way. And I ordered a new & SIM-free K790a from Amazon.com for $295. It will serve me until the K850i drops in price and improves in reliability.

That's it -

for life

However, my Nokia experience has also taught me a few areas where

really needs to improve.

reception (E50 was a bit more solid than any

I've ever had)
inbound call audio quality and volume (Nokia is considerably better in this regard)
materials and build quality (the E50 was made of stainless steel, for Pete's sake!) *
Mac software development - see here and here for examples
N. America needs (3G) smartphones, too!

* I would have instead bought an S500i, if not for the ongoing keypad problem

Anyway, good to be back!

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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:05:08
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BobaFett Posts: > 500

what other nokias did u gave a try?
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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:07:01
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MWEB Posts: > 500

The only things that bug me about S60 is the slow boot time, and the fact that decent apps cost money

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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:11:32
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Hlcn Twst Posts: > 500

On 2007-12-06 20:07:01, BobaFett wrote:
what other nokias did u gave a try?

N73 and I believe the 6126. I realize the newer E and N phones are faster; however, I still disliked S60 overall.

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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:13:05
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xironghostx Posts: > 500

Welcome back matey
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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:17:52
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SilveR. Posts: > 500

There is two different users.. One like Fast good looking UI. Other one like want to install third part programs on phone.. called as smart phone..

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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:21:24
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BobaFett Posts: > 500

i prefer the e series over the n series. i hadnt nay problems with the os, but i have to admit, my e50 joy got buggy after some weeks, but e60 joy is amizingly good, also n91.
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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:23:03
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Dogmann Posts: > 500

@Hlcn Twst

Well if you don't need or want a smart phone fair enough get what ever suits best and i sincerely wish you the best of luck as i feel you may just need it.

@mweb6161

I really fail to see how you can say S60 boots slow for a smart phone my current device of choice is just 22seconds and my previous S60's all around 35seconds max, just what smart phones boot faster than this then? SE's at a minute approx? WM6?.

Dumb phones may well do but i could never make do with WAP or just J2ME well not for my needs. I never used Wap when it launched or was the only option as IMO it's just rubbish.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-12-06 19:31 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:30:47
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Coxy Posts: > 500

Waits for the master debator Dogmann to enter....

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@Dogmann

Oh damn so I was! Just that one minute!

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[ This Message was edited by: Coxy on 2007-12-06 21:34 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:31:00
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Dogmann Posts: > 500

Hi Coxy

You were a little late with that one, Predicable Moi?

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-12-06 19:32 ]
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