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5nak3 Posts: 364

Hi all, with Christmas just round the corner i've been looking at what i need, and i noticed there isn't much i need or want for that matter except an mp3 player.

I already have a creative zen nano plus but alas it is only 1gb. So i was thinking of treating myself to a new player, my requirements are:

Must have external battery (i dont like the idea of rechargable internal batteries because if they die when you are on the move you cannot just buy a new battery and get going again)

Must have a simple drag and drop function dont want extra PC software, that way i can use the player as a USB stick as well, i dont mind if i need a cable to attach to the PC but i really dont want additional software.

Obviously over 1gb, ideally over 2gb as well.

Flash memory (duh!)

Compact, dont really want a tall and slim player i prefer the boxy shape of the zen or the creative pebble or whatever their new small mp3 player is called.

Oh and voice recording is a must.

I know that these requirements do not leave me much wiggle room considering the trend is to do away with the AA or AAA powered mp3 players and bring in recharagble battery players, but if anyone can help me / advise me on a good player that meets these requirements it would help a lot.

Price range, I'm not sure, to be fair i'm open to anything, although come closer to Christmas i'm guessing i'm looking at around £100. Oh well thanks in advance folks, hope you can help me
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Posted: 2007-12-07 23:15:47
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Sammy_boy Posts: > 500

This is a bit of an off the wall suggestion but how about a Minidisc player?

I have an NH700 Hi-MD unit, takes 1Gb discs, uses 1 'AA' battery, and you can buy stereo mics and record to MDs! Bit more bulky than an MP3, also tied to the proprietary SonicStage software but excellent sound quality and very flexible pieces of kit
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Posted: 2007-12-07 23:40:03
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5nak3 Posts: 364

I had thought about looking at other forms of digital music but i think the mp3 player is indeed what i want to stick with, because over the past 3 years, my little zen has come everywhere with me always in my pocket taking up almost no space whatsoever and it allows me to listen to my music as well as make voice recordings when needed. However its main use has been for my morning runs and trips to the gym.

I am not too sure about the mini disc player but i have found HDD players are not as durable as i would like them to be, to feel safe with them while running.
Also i would like everything to be included in one package...currently i am looking at some of sony's and creatives offerings available through Argos, but none of them have a seperate battery which has been the only reason i have avoided them.

Thanks for the suggestion anyhow.
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Posted: 2007-12-08 00:26:00
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fatreg Posts: > 500

depeneds how serious you are about music..

if you love music and want a reference sound you really can not beat an MD player.. proper DACs for both channels and a proper warm sound... and if you use a PC, Hi-MD is a doddle to do. very much like using an MP3 player..
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Posted: 2007-12-08 00:32:34
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5nak3 Posts: 364

I'll be honest music quality is not a major issue for me for 2 reasons first main use is when i am out running or at the gym this means a load of barking from the dogs and grunting and general smashing of metal against metal / floor...

Secondly the secondary reason for the player is on the daily commute to the hell hole i call work therefore i get the lovely backround noise of the London tube system, in addition to the random shoutings of many commuters.

So yeah i'm not really in an environment to actually enjoy quality music lol, and i'm sure the headphones dont help matters as i have invested in a pair of sport headphones so not the best on the market, but so far as far as abuse goes, they've taken a lot and keep coming back for more.
What i find most interesting where many headphones would have given up a long time ago from the sweat that my ones have seen over the past 2 years these ones keep coming back for more.

And on a side not i currently i have my songs encoded at 128kbps so not the best quality to start off with in the first place.
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Posted: 2007-12-08 01:19:26
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mo-00786 Posts: 204

the sandisk sansa e250 has a removable battery i think you just slide the back cover off.am i right? if i am then im sure you can carry an extra sandisk sansa e250 battery pack with you
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Posted: 2007-12-08 02:24:36
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Muhammad-Oli Posts: > 500

Yeeeeah... That need of replaceable/removeable batteries is gonna slim it down to almost nothing new, especially with that kind of memory, unless you go for a super cheap (and likely super crap) brand.

I think the only option is to find an MP3 player with a battery that can be taken out (mobile phone style) and then get another battery pack to carry, as the above user mentioned.
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Posted: 2007-12-09 12:30:51
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5nak3 Posts: 364

Yeah, i've been doing some searching and found that the removable AA or AAA battery mp3 players are brands like itronics, goodmans, and alba...

I did see a Sony Mp3 player usb stick style, no extra software with a rechargable battery the thing is it is USB charging only and i dont know if it has a voice recorder...

Sucks to be fair because i can remember a number of times when i'm going out or to the gym or anything where i turn on the player and see i have no battery left, then i just insert a new one and i'm good to go.
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Posted: 2007-12-09 16:02:43
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paul101 Posts: > 500

why not just get a music phone?



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Posted: 2007-12-10 22:23:14
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5nak3 Posts: 364

well i've always looked at things if i want a camera i get a camera not a camera phone, if i want music on the go i get a mp3/cd player etc...

While this maybe an outdated POV i still feel that mp3 players beat music phones left, right and centre. But the main reason i have not opted for a music phone is the fact that i dont use my mp3 player just for the daily commute. I use it almost everyday during a workout, now on my runs i sweat as can be expected, and while i do wear my mp3 player in an armband it does get exposed to sweat every now and again, also i dont quit if it starts to rain, i like to finish off the run so it has also been drenched more than enough times.

At the gym i've had it take a few falls and what not, if it was a music phone i feel that it would have broken a long time ago.

And while you could argue take more care and nothing will happen and for the most part i agree, the main reason i've never considered a music phone is that i get around 18hrs continuous use out of the mp3 player, considering it use it about 3 hours for the commute to and from work, plus whenever i'm alone at work say another hour per day, and i also use the voice recording features when needed this comes to a couple of hours a day, you are looking at around 5-6hours per day of normal use.

If i also add in the use of the player on a workout another hour or so i guess on a busy day i easily get through about 7 hours use.

If this were a phone after 7 hours use, plus doing all the phone things i.e. messages, calls, games whatever you can see i'd be hard pressed to actually have a phone that will keep running all day.

So really i prefer a dedicated device to allow me some flexibility in as far as if the battery does die, i normally carry a couple of AAA in my bag anyways, which means i can easily get the thing up an running at a moments notice.
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Posted: 2007-12-10 23:31:33
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