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Finally!!!

http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/here-comes-opera-mobile-9.html

I hope this means ALL uiq phones will have acess to it I think so

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[ This Message was edited by: ares on 2007-12-10 18:03 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-10 18:50:05
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It's still not released. Maybe on the 1 year anniversary, maybe on the 2nd? Hope it is a big improvement.
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Posted: 2007-12-10 21:37:40
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..sigh. In other news, SE "doesn't give out details about upgrades", Opera tech. says "go speak to SE, and UIQ doesn't respond.

My guess - they've actually bought a deal for getting Opera 9 on /some/ of their phones (quite possibly together with some sort of integration of web- content in UIQ), and have, through incredible foresight, prevented Opera from releasing a separate browser for the UIQ platform.

Hm. Is it that time again? Why, yes, I think it is time for yet another angry letter to SE. Whereupon the response will consist of "we do not give out details about upgrades, or development goals - maybe you can try Opera mini, if you want your stupid zoom- function?".
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Posted: 2007-12-10 23:17:54
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@ares, any info on what memory requirements will be?
I can just imagine what SE's answer will be if we ask them about Opera 9 upgrade: "buy our new phone"...
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Posted: 2007-12-11 02:04:44
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nah they will only say this only for UIQ 3.2 or 4 and is not supported by current UIQ, simple as that and it will shut us all up
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Posted: 2007-12-11 02:23:47
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this doesn't look to promising for existing uiq3 users.
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Posted: 2007-12-11 05:06:39
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Well, if SE ends up not implementing this in their next firmware upgrade for the other UIQ devices - while other OSs will have the browser as a separate download, or bundled with their devices - then I won't be buying another UIQ device again while SE is a shareholder, then will I.

Seriously - if they get away with that - not only dropping a very likely excellent upgrade deal that would increase the value on the existing UIQ phones, but also blocking 3rd party developers from offering a product to the UIQ platform (and this would be a new product, not an upgrade) - then they're actively opposing the main UIQ development goals.
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Posted: 2007-12-11 16:16:27
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Do we have to pay for the update?
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Posted: 2007-12-11 17:53:04
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..Seems it's out of Opera tech's hands, so it's up to UIQ. In the sense that SE decides whether to support earlier units or not, while UIQ develops new UIQ versions with new software.

The question is what sort of relationship that creates between UIQ and SE, and whether UIQ at all has any reason to aim for backwards- compatibility and upgrades like this, when SE doesn't seem to care...

On the other hand, if UIQ "owns" Opera for UIQ, then they should be able to program a standalone app, as well as an integrated one...
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Posted: 2007-12-11 18:00:48
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Is it not just the case that this is a new version of Opera for a new (coming) generation of UIQ phones, in the same way that 8 was to the UIQ2 phones? P910 owners were never able to upgrade either.

SE's deal to put 8.65 on the P990, M600, P1 etc almost certainly didn't cover Opera 9. Bug fixes/improvements to 8, but not 9 - that's a new product requiring a new license from Opera, probably on a per-device basis. Why on earth would SE pay to put Opera 9 on phones they've already sold with 8.65 (which they also paid for) on board?

As for why Opera aren't releasing Opera 9 for sale as to existing UIQ3 customers, if that is the case, that can only be a commercial decision made by Opera - not SE. Whether SE want them to or not, it's for Opera to decide how and when to release their own software.
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Posted: 2007-12-11 18:11:31
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