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I am with Vodafone UK and use the "My Mail" facility to collect my e-mails (incoming only) from a number of other accounts. However whilst this works fine with a scheduled download and can't seem to get the "push email" to work.
Presumably account servings are fine and I have "ticked" the push mail box. Is there anything else I should be doing?
Incidentally is it true that having the push email on all the time drains the battery?
Thanks
MnM
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Posted: 2008-01-26 12:59:16
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I was told by Vodafone that push email does not work on W960i!
and was told by SE that only ActiceSync works at this time.
personally. I'm not impressed.
anyone else have any joy with Push email?
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Posted: 2008-01-26 16:20:54
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It works fine on manual, if your server supports imap idle. But the scheduler for push- mail doesn't seem to work all that well. Go and vote on the bug
here, if you like.
..A kind of workaround is to set the "plan downloads" on some useful point in time. And then manually disconnect when you don't want it to be online any more.
Battery drain.. on gprs, not all that much, even over several hours, if the signal doesn't need to be renewed all the time. What it basically does is just keeping the connection alive, and not much data- transfer is going on.
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Posted: 2008-01-26 18:56:19
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thanks to you both for the advice. Disappointing but as I have 120 MB plan it is not too much me a problem to do the scheduled downloads every few hours. But what is ActiveSync?
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Posted: 2008-01-26 19:50:00
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I'm upgrading to a W960i this week so have been doing some homework on what my e-mail options are.
The first issue which I know from old is that most SonyEricssons claim to support push e-mail but this does not mean the likes of BB connect will work.
The second is that EVEN if BB connect or similar third party software CAN work on the likes of the W960i, the programme itself generally needs to be written in such a way that the installer recognises your phone as compatible.
I.E: it's all very well saying that the O.S for the W960i is the same as the P1, but if it's not a P1, then the installer wont do the job.
I use BB connect on the P990i and had it on the P910i so the only way I was prepared to migrate to the W960i was if I could come up with an alternative.
In my case, I'm signing up to a 10GB per month package fro €30 on O2 Ireland.
This will void my need to have blackberry at all.
You should call your network and ask if something similar is available to you.
Hope this is of help and enjoy the phone!
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Posted: 2008-01-28 14:10:51
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POP3 does not support push email, fyi to all those that are having issues.
examples are Gmail, hotmail, msn, etc.
IMAP v4 or IMAP v6 online accounts DO support push email.
examples are Yahoo mail, some cable providers have imap email accounts, though most have POP3.
Keep this in mind before thinking its a bug.
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Posted: 2008-01-28 14:48:17
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Correct, but with a good data package, all you need to do is set your phone to check for mail every few minutes which in affect is all a Blackberry does anyway.
Still, it's a fair point none the less
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Posted: 2008-01-28 15:07:20
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Blackberry doesn't check for email - it's one of few "true" push systems where the phone doesn't have to do the checking itself - so no email = no data sent or received.
Imap Push, Activesync etc - they all basically depend on the phone checking the server on a regular/continual basis, but are still possibly lighter on data than a regular POP poll, and are closer to instant too.
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Posted: 2008-01-28 15:27:35
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That's not strictly true. Blackberry requires a constant GPRS access point. That's why you need to have a Blackberry tariff applied to your account. That way, using the specific access point, your network can charge you a set fee.
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Posted: 2008-01-28 15:50:43
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On 2008-01-28 15:50:43, Scorchio wrote:
That's not strictly true. Blackberry requires a constant GPRS access point. That's why you need to have a Blackberry tariff applied to your account. That way, using the specific access point, your network can charge you a set fee.
Also, IMAP idle works something like this:
- logon.
- check mail.
- enter idle state.
.........
...
- mail arrives at server, tells your mail- client.
- enter idle state.
......
So it just requires a connection to be open, and is a lot less greedy than most push- solutions involving external sends, and so on. But if you recieve few mail, and move around between access points, it's not necessarily more efficient, since there'll be some data- traffic used to maintain and negotiate the connection all the time. (So if you don't have a good data- tariff, it might be more useful to have a BB connect or some other separate service instead, of course.)
edit: But I don't see any signatures on the wiki, yet
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Posted: 2008-01-28 20:06:33
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