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fatreg Posts: > 500

those pesky French kids have made one!!

http://www.darkroastedblend.c[....]e-worlds-biggest-particle.html

can bend space and time!
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Posted: 2008-03-21 23:37:12
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masseur Posts: > 500

CERN is an incredible place. When I worked in Geneva in the 80's, I and my colleagues used to go to their canteen for lunch as it was open to all and we often chatted with all sorts of Nuclear Physicists who told us some about their research and sometimes gave us a tour of the facilities.

In those days they were just building their second particle accelerator which was almost as big as this and also looped underground into Swizterland and back again into France

this stuff amazes me
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Posted: 2008-03-21 23:44:31
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fatreg Posts: > 500

it confuses me!

I can't comprehend space, the whole thing doesn't seem to equate to me, the cosmos we live in is a certain size, so many billions of years old and it takes 100,000 years for a light beam to transfer from one side of the milky way to the other side, so in essence what they view up the mountains in Hawaii is 100,000 years old, yet it tells us lots about the galaxy we live in, but our galaxy is only of a given size, there are numerous galaxies out there all of their own size, but where does it end? do you literally get to the end of the universe? or does it continue? Einstein said that gravity was a unilateral given element that could be deformed when subjected to forces, gases and planets, now Einstein depicted the gravity ball we all live in as just that a ball, so what's outside the ball? there has to be something, but what!? I still fail to see we are the only intelligible beings that inhabit our said cosmos...

maybe in my lifetime some of the above things will be answered but I hold little faith as we can't travel at any sort of speed, yet the edge of our cosmos is a good few billion light years away.

and don't get me started on black holes, they confuse me ever more, the wormhole they have has to go somewhere!!? WHERE!!?

back on topic!

it's a bloody big place by the looks of it!
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Posted: 2008-03-21 23:57:33
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masseur Posts: > 500

its worse than that. the milky way is 100,000 light years across, not 100,00 years

and I do like the question that if the universe is expanding... what is it expanding into?

but yes, its all very mind boggling really, but somehow I can't see why the universe would be as big as it is if there wasn't a way to traverse it easily
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Posted: 2008-03-22 00:05:45
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carkitter Posts: > 500

At 27 kms in circumference, I can't see anyone installing it into a De Lorean anytime soon.
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Posted: 2008-03-22 01:04:11
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max_wedge Posts: > 500



I'll pay that.


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Posted: 2008-03-22 02:30:22
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Seanyb2 Posts: > 500

Well if we were the only beings in the whole universe it would sure be a complete waste of all that space. Lol. Perhaps it is endless we probably are not meant to find out till we die i dont know but there has to be something else out there there cant be just nothing.
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Posted: 2008-03-22 03:36:00
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

it's a paradox. On the one hand, there can't be nothing, because that would imply that nothing can exist at all. If anything exists at all, even a tiny dot of matter, then it's not possible for there to be "nothing". The existence of anything at all obliterates the possibility of "nothing"

If there is no such thing as "nothing", then "everything" must be infinite, since it is bound by "nothing". If there is no such thing as nothing, and since the universe appears to be finite (though science can only deduce this, it's never been proven), then there must be "something" outside of this universe. What that something is we cannot define as yet (though string theory is giving it a good go).

Is "something" exists at all, where the hell did it come from?? That's the paradox. There can't be nothing, but it's equally absurd to propose that the "something" just happens to be here and has been from and to eternity.

Basically our existence (and self-awareness) proves we do infact exist, but that existence itself has no origin, and is therefore impossible.

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Posted: 2008-03-22 07:04:59
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belialwafu Posts: > 500

arent those long pipes used in terminator 3? haha...

for me its a waste of time. unless they prove that it WILL REALLY WORK the way they want it to work
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Posted: 2008-03-22 08:55:34
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gola Posts: > 500

All those nothings sure are something
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Posted: 2008-03-22 09:22:04
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