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After reading that the N82 took "best imaging device" in Europe I feel its time for SE to wake up. This is the second thread I have started on the topic.
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=168485
Perhaps a petition thread could motivate SE. With the restrictive size of the sensors used in cell phones CMOS isn't cutting it. The images are "noisy" and inconsistent. As mentioned in my other thread the I-mobile 902(with a Sony CCD camera unit) still takes better images than any other camera phone.
If SE were to use CCD in their flagship C-series phone, not only would they reclaim the imaging crown, SE would surely have a best-seller on their hands. I would also like to see Xenon flash used.(Photolight is only a touch above led's)
If you agree and would like a product that could truly be considered a substitute for your stand-alone digtial camera then sign below. Feel free to comment as well.
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Posted: 2008-04-26 16:51:01
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I'm sure they know what they're doing. They aren't THAT stupid, you know.
Things aren't as simple as you describe them to be.
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Posted: 2008-04-26 16:52:36
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LucianTheOne is agree and wanna give his vote for this. SonyEricsson have to be No. 1!!!
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Posted: 2008-04-26 16:56:24
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On 2008-04-26 16:52:36, NightBlade wrote:
I'm sure they know what they're doing. They aren't THAT stupid, you know.
Things aren't as simple as you describe them to be.
I can say with all honesty, conviction and knowledge that SE DID NOT KNOW what they were doing with P990, so apparently you can't be too sure that they do in the case of their Cybershot range. I mean, how on earth can you say they know what they're doing when a convergence device such as N95 and N82 can outperform a dedicated imaging Cybershot phone like K850? Obviously no Cybershot branded SE device has won the prestigious imaging award so CCD or no CCD, they better be doing something!
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Posted: 2008-04-26 18:05:34
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se clearly have no idea what there doing with the cybershot range 5megapixels is a very bad idea, they have also reduced the focal lengh to 4.2mm another very bad idea, and they have scrapped the xenon flash for a tacky led one with a stupid name another very bad idea.
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Posted: 2008-04-26 18:11:44
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On 2008-04-26 16:52:36, NightBlade wrote:
I'm sure they know what they're doing. They aren't THAT stupid, you know.
Things aren't as simple as you describe them to be.
They're not as difficult as you imply either. SE's two flagships, w960 and k850, are hardly success'. W960 is a flop and k850 isn't far behind and comes up short in it's main feature; imaging. Not only does it come up short the k850 gets outdone by most of its competition. With the c902 they are continuing a shitty trend. The k800/810 take photos just as well as the k850. The k850 may take a better photo here and there but, the consistency of the k800/810 make up for it. If you're happy than don't sign and enjoy photoshopping, playing with your cam-settings, and convincing yourself the pictures are greeeaaat!
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Posted: 2008-04-26 18:11:50
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On 2008-04-26 18:05:34, mode wrote:
On 2008-04-26 16:52:36, NightBlade wrote:
I'm sure they know what they're doing. They aren't THAT stupid, you know.
Things aren't as simple as you describe them to be.
I can say with all honesty, conviction and knowledge that SE DID NOT KNOW what they were doing with P990, so apparently you can't be too sure that they do in the case of their Cybershot range. I mean, how on earth can you say they know what they're doing when a convergence device such as N95 and N82 can outperform a dedicated imaging Cybershot phone like K850? Obviously no Cybershot branded SE device has won the prestigious imaging award so CCD or no CCD, they better be doing something!
^^what he said. Well put
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Posted: 2008-04-26 18:16:10
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On 2008-04-26 18:05:34, mode wrote:
On 2008-04-26 16:52:36, NightBlade wrote:
I'm sure they know what they're doing. They aren't THAT stupid, you know.
Things aren't as simple as you describe them to be.
I can say with all honesty, conviction and knowledge that SE DID NOT KNOW what they were doing with P990, so apparently you can't be too sure that they do in the case of their Cybershot range. I mean, how on earth can you say they know what they're doing when a convergence device such as N95 and N82 can outperform a dedicated imaging Cybershot phone like K850? Obviously no Cybershot branded SE device has won the prestigious imaging award so CCD or no CCD, they better be doing something!
I'm sure they are. But I'm also sure that just putting a CCD sensor won't solve all their problems.
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Posted: 2008-04-26 18:53:51
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On 2008-04-26 18:53:51, NightBlade wrote:
I'm sure they are. But I'm also sure that just putting a CCD sensor won't solve all their problems.
When I read the following in Mobile-review's
review of the i-mobile 902:
But what really grabs our attention and what is the core of this very review, is the fact that I-Mobile’s handset carries a camera module that we are to see in a number of upcoming Sony Ericsson-branded phones in 2007. Even a fleeting glance unveils near resemblance of interface layout with Sony Ericsson K750i, which is not just all another coincidence – the camera is in fact made by Sony. In Sony Ericsson’s brand new handsets the camera’s UI will be revamped with more features coming up, but the basic quality of snaps, as well as approximate size of future handsets, can be checked out today.
. . . and saw some of the sample shots, like this one:
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Full size.)
. . . then I almost crapped myself when
introduced the K850i. And how the excitement turned into eye-watering disappointment when reading that it has a tiny, tiny CMOS sensor.
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Posted: 2008-04-26 20:07:20
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...and it would be nice if we left "bashing" ( that I wholeheartedly support on this and some other issues ! ) on the other threads, and try to keep this one nice and clean and with as many "signatures" possible ?
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Posted: 2008-04-26 20:46:00
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